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  • paulfromtulsa
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2013
    • 211

    #121
    Originally posted by arrover View Post
    My stock untouched prop ran 48.7 so maybe there's a wide variance in them. The x646 didn't torque roll to badly. I didn't really notice it anyway. I have run a 5014 on this boat and it did torque roll pretty badly but it still ran 55.8. I think you already switched your ESC right? I think I'm probably at the limit of the stock setup with the x646. The temps are concerning at least but I want to hear what the pros think.
    Your motor and esc temps are not too high. Yes i have change the esc to a 180amp Seaking. The 5014 prop that you used is it 50mm with a 1.4 pitch? I'm not familiar with that prop. I'm thinking iI might ok with a 648.

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    • arrover
      Senior Member
      • May 2015
      • 322

      #122
      The 5014 is a CNC prop that I tried just to see what they were all about. Yes, it does have a 1.4 pitch. I would like to see how far the stock ESC and motor can be pushed but I'm kind of itching to put in my 180a Seaking too...
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      • kfxguy
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Oct 2013
        • 8750

        #123
        Originally posted by paulfromtulsa View Post
        Your motor and esc temps are not too high. Yes i have change the esc to a 180amp Seaking. The 5014 prop that you used is it 50mm with a 1.4 pitch? I'm not familiar with that prop. I'm thinking iI might ok with a 648.

        I see your itching to try a 648. Well I can tell you I burned up a $490 lehner motor and a expensive Esc in my 34" mono running that prop. It pulled a lot of amps. I think I was Peaking 399 amps in some points of the data log. I'm not sure what it will do on this boat. It is a lighter boat but it has a six pole motor which changes things some. I know the stock setup lives just fine with a bit less prop but is close to being on the edge. I've only see a 2 or so mph increase from a 645 to a 648 anyway. There's better props out there that would pull less amps and likely go faster. M447 is one example. 1914 and 1915 abc are two more choices. I went 58 with a abc prop weekend before last. I know the 648 won't be as fast and will be harder on things. I'm not even sure why I keep that prop lol. I'm gonna try to get out to the lake a couple times this week and do some more testing. I really really need to change trim tabs. I think the stock ones are causing me fits because they won't hold their position if they get touched. I'm trying to keep this boat in as stock form as possible but I think that's one necessary accessory it really needs.
        32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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        • paulfromtulsa
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2013
          • 211

          #124
          Originally posted by kfxguy View Post
          I see your itching to try a 648. Well I can tell you I burned up a $490 lehner motor and a expensive Esc in my 34" mono running that prop. It pulled a lot of amps. I think I was Peaking 399 amps in some points of the data log. I'm not sure what it will do on this boat. It is a lighter boat but it has a six pole motor which changes things some. I know the stock setup lives just fine with a bit less prop but is close to being on the edge. I've only see a 2 or so mph increase from a 645 to a 648 anyway. There's better props out there that would pull less amps and likely go faster. M447 is one example. 1914 and 1915 abc are two more choices. I went 58 with a abc prop weekend before last. I know the 648 won't be as fast and will be harder on things. I'm not even sure why I keep that prop lol. I'm gonna try to get out to the lake a couple times this week and do some more testing. I really really need to change trim tabs. I think the stock ones are causing me fits because they won't hold their position if they get touched. I'm trying to keep this boat in as stock form as possible but I think that's one necessary accessory it really needs.
          I'm really just itching to hit 60mph. I just want the best prop to get me there. So far the best performing prop has been the abc 1815. So i might just try one of those. I'm not sure what to do lol

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          • kfxguy
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Oct 2013
            • 8750

            #125
            Originally posted by paulfromtulsa View Post
            I'm really just itching to hit 60mph. I just want the best prop to get me there. So far the best performing prop has been the abc 1815. So i might just try one of those. I'm not sure what to do lol
            Do note that Shua has a different rudder and billet trim tabs on his boat. Not sure if it helps but I do know the rudder he's using is a very good one and having the speed master trim tabs are definitely a plus. But for sure the 1815 is a very good prop.
            Last edited by kfxguy; 09-08-2015, 12:46 AM.
            32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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            • arrover
              Senior Member
              • May 2015
              • 322

              #126
              KFX, are the ABC props you run 10 or 17 degree rake angle?
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              • shua
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2015
                • 479

                #127
                Originally posted by kfxguy View Post
                Do note that Shua has a different rudder and billet trim tabs on his boat. Not sure if it helps but I do know the rudder he's using is a very good one and having the speed master trim tabs are definitely a plus. But for sure the 1815 is a very good prop.
                This is correct and I already upgraded to the Seaking 180 esc with an additional cap bank. I do not know If the props I'm trying would be safe for the stock speed controller. I would wager NOT.

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                • kfxguy
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 8750

                  #128
                  Originally posted by shua View Post
                  This is correct and I already upgraded to the Seaking 180 esc with an additional cap bank. I do not know If the props I'm trying would be safe for the stock speed controller. I would wager NOT.


                  That's a sexy rear end. Lol
                  32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                  • kfxguy
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 8750

                    #129
                    Originally posted by arrover View Post
                    KFX, are the ABC props you run 10 or 17 degree rake angle?

                    1814 is a 10 degree and 1815 is a 17 degree. Abc is coming out with a 1814 (1.4 pitch vs 1.5 pitch) 17 degree rake version with the 45 blade area. Should be a good runner on this boat.
                    32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                    • arrover
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2015
                      • 322

                      #130
                      Thanks for the information!
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                      • shua
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 479

                        #131
                        Originally posted by kfxguy View Post
                        That's a sexy rear end. Lol
                        Thanks! I decided to name her as well.

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                        • arrover
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2015
                          • 322

                          #132
                          I ran an ABC 1915-17-45 this morning. Still stock motor and ESC. Water was glassy and I don't have this prop quite as sharp as it probably should be. A little breeze and a sharper prop might get a little more but anyway..... 57.3mph on 6S and 36.1mph on 4S. This prop has a pretty good amount of slip on acceleration from a stop and in tighter or slow corners. Boat is still handling great though. Lots of fun. Here are some temps. I would run a 2-3 quick passes and then bring it in read temps. I did not run full packs so these temps could go higher.

                          ESC - 126
                          Motor - 105
                          Batts - 95 95
                          ESC caps - 170
                          Motor connectors - 120ish

                          1915-17prop1 (Medium).JPG 1915-17prop2 (Medium).JPG
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                          • paulfromtulsa
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2013
                            • 211

                            #133
                            Originally posted by arrover View Post
                            I ran an ABC 1915-17-45 this morning. Still stock motor and ESC. Water was glassy and I don't have this prop quite as sharp as it probably should be. A little breeze and a sharper prop might get a little more but anyway..... 57.3mph on 6S and 36.1mph on 4S. This prop has a pretty good amount of slip on acceleration from a stop and in tighter or slow corners. Boat is still handling great though. Lots of fun. Here are some temps. I would run a 2-3 quick passes and then bring it in read temps. I did not run full packs so these temps could go higher.

                            ESC - 126
                            Motor - 105
                            Batts - 95 95
                            ESC caps - 170
                            Motor connectors - 120ish

                            [ATTACH=CONFIG]136818[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]136819[/ATTACH]
                            So out of all your props which one yields the highest mph? Im still trying to decide on which prop to buy

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                            • arrover
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2015
                              • 322

                              #134
                              So far this is the fastest that I have run but I only have 6 or 8 props currently. I'm having fun trying different things. What's amazing to me is that the 4S speed with this prop was 21mph slower than 6S.
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                              • kfxguy
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Oct 2013
                                • 8750

                                #135
                                Originally posted by shua View Post
                                Thanks! I decided to name her as well.




                                Man that thing looks so good!
                                32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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