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  • Brushless55
    Creator
    • Oct 2008
    • 9479

    #106
    Originally posted by montymike View Post
    Bet it would be fast as long as you used a 180a e.s.c.
    I'm real curious to see some data logging on this boat
    .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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    • kfxguy
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Oct 2013
      • 8750

      #107
      Originally posted by Brushless55 View Post
      I'm real curious to see some data logging on this boat

      I will be logging on my next runs (maybe today) but I won't use a 646/3 lol.
      32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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      • Brushless55
        Creator
        • Oct 2008
        • 9479

        #108
        Originally posted by kfxguy View Post
        I will be logging on my next runs (maybe today) but I won't use a 646/3 lol.
        That's cool
        the stock prop has good runtimes and I bet does not pull to much
        .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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        • TheShaughnessy
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Mar 2011
          • 1419

          #109
          so 4614/3 was ok but a m447/3 will burn things down? If you round the tips it will condense the thrust cone and reduce the diameter which would make the specs just about identical except you lose the lowest pitch part of the blade that ultimately limits top speed. I'm still confused on why this is laughable. I will admit I don't run anything 6s but if my 4s boat can run that prop than I don't understand why a more efficient 6s boat couldn't do the same thing. I'm not saying it's a sport prop or anything but for a couple min at a time I would think it would survive. Oh well I have nothing empirical to back it up and no intention of getting a Voracity so I guess it doesn't really matter.

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          • kfxguy
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Oct 2013
            • 8750

            #110
            Originally posted by TheShaughnessy View Post
            so 4614/3 was ok but a m447/3 will burn things down? If you round the tips it will condense the thrust cone and reduce the diameter which would make the specs just about identical except you lose the lowest pitch part of the blade that ultimately limits top speed. I'm still confused on why this is laughable. I will admit I don't run anything 6s but if my 4s boat can run that prop than I don't understand why a more efficient 6s boat couldn't do the same thing. I'm not saying it's a sport prop or anything but for a couple min at a time I would think it would survive. Oh well I have nothing empirical to back it up and no intention of getting a Voracity so I guess it doesn't really matter.
            Respectfully id like to point something out. Just because a certain prop runs well on 4s does not mean it will play nice on 6s. 4s is approximately 24,400 rpm mildly loaded. You turn the same prop on 6a and that's 36,600 (yes over 12k rpm more). Do you really think the load wouldn't go up a bunch too? Just pointing that out because a lot of people don't consider that.
            32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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            • TheShaughnessy
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Mar 2011
              • 1419

              #111
              4s at 2200 kv is the set up I was refering to, I should have included that. 32,560 vs 36,600. The latter being less amp hungry because it has a higher voltage.

              Two completely different set ups so I do realize the comparison isn't exactly fair but neither is comparing a 36x50 to a much larger motor. I'm also comparing to a boat that is 4 inches shorter so again, not apples to apples.

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              • kfxguy
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Oct 2013
                • 8750

                #112
                I'm off camping but the lake looks pretty crappy. I have a small area I can run in but I'm not sure it's worth it. I'm going to run the shockwave in it first. There's pipes and stuff sticking up out the water. The shockwave has a break away rudder so I feel safer running it first. If everything goes we I'll run the voracity. I hate to sink it with a $450 Esc in it. Lol
                32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                • Brushless55
                  Creator
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 9479

                  #113
                  Let us know bro !
                  .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                  • hobby_man
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 103

                    #114
                    IMG_5966.jpgIMG_5967.jpgIMG_5968.jpgIMG_5969.jpgIMG_5970.jpg
                    Boat is stock with the prop balanced and polished

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                    • hobby_man
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 103

                      #115
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                      • kfxguy
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 8750

                        #116
                        Ran it a couple times yesterday. Not quite sure why but it ran very slow. 44mph is all it could muster. I did change the strut position (without marking it like a dummy) and I'm sure that's what happened. Also in transport I think my trim tab position got screwed up. I really can't wait till ose has the billet trim tabs, I think those will be the best mod you could do to this boat. I'm seriously considering just getting the speed master ones because I don't want to wait. If I can I'm going to go run some more today but bring tools this time.
                        32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                        • paulfromtulsa
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2013
                          • 211

                          #117
                          i did some gps runs today and the best i got was 48mph with a prather 225 sharpened and balanced. i only got 44 with the stock prop untouched.

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                          • arrover
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2015
                            • 322

                            #118
                            It seems like the stock prop may be hit or miss? Do you think the boat is running to wet? I trimmed mine up a hair from the way it came from the factory.

                            I sharpened and balanced an Octura X646 this afternoon and ran it just now. 53.9mph on 6s on the stock motor and ESC. I didn't have my 4s packs charged. Here are the temps after about 2/3rds of one set packs. Seems that things are getting a little hot. What are the max temps that I shouldn't exceed?

                            Capacitors on the ESC wires - 190
                            Motor connectors - 170
                            ESC - 135
                            Motor - 120
                            Batteries - 115 and 120

                            x646 6S (Medium).JPG
                            ProBoat Zelos 36 Twin, Voracity 36, Impulse 31, Stealthwake 23, and HobbyKing Flowmaster Videos

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                            • paulfromtulsa
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 211

                              #119
                              Originally posted by arrover View Post
                              It seems like the stock prop may be hit or miss? Do you think the boat is running to wet? I trimmed mine up a hair from the way it came from the factory.

                              I sharpened and balanced an Octura X646 this afternoon and ran it just now. 53.9mph on 6s on the stock motor and ESC. I didn't have my 4s packs charged. Here are the temps after about 2/3rds of one set packs. Seems that things are getting a little hot. What are the max temps that I shouldn't exceed?

                              Capacitors on the ESC wires - 190
                              Motor connectors - 170
                              ESC - 135
                              Motor - 120
                              Batteries - 115 and 120

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                              My boat wasn't running wet at all. I actually did a few adjustment and those mph was the best iI got. When it was running wet i only got 41mph. When you ran your 646 did the boat torque roll at all or was it pretty straight? I'm thinking about getting a 6 48 but want to make sure the 646 wasn't too much first

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                              • arrover
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2015
                                • 322

                                #120
                                My stock untouched prop ran 48.7 so maybe there's a wide variance in them. The x646 didn't torque roll to badly. I didn't really notice it anyway. I have run a 5014 on this boat and it did torque roll pretty badly but it still ran 55.8. I think you already switched your ESC right? I think I'm probably at the limit of the stock setup with the x646. The temps are concerning at least but I want to hear what the pros think.
                                ProBoat Zelos 36 Twin, Voracity 36, Impulse 31, Stealthwake 23, and HobbyKing Flowmaster Videos

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