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  • arrover
    Senior Member
    • May 2015
    • 322

    #76
    Originally posted by kfxguy View Post
    Likely burn something up
    Are you thinking that it wouldn't work with the stock ESC (I think that's what Rafael has said already)? If the ESC was upgraded, would the x648 cause the stock motor problems? Sorry, I'm just trying to learn how these systems work together.
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    • kfxguy
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Oct 2013
      • 8750

      #77
      Yea the x648 is a bit too much for the stock Esc. Maybe with an upgraded Esc it would be ok but if I had to guess it won't be the fastest prop. I haven't seen it work well on anything yet. Many better choices than that prop too.
      32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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      • TheShaughnessy
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Mar 2011
        • 1419

        #78
        does anybody have an x646/3 converted to m series? maybe slightly round the tips, would like to hear how that prop runs, might be a little hot but, some monos like 3 bladed props.

        id also like to see what you get from an m447/3 not sure if octura makes one but you can always detongue a x447/x

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        • arrover
          Senior Member
          • May 2015
          • 322

          #79
          Thanks KFX. Very interesting. I think you said you're testing a ESC in your Voracity. How many amps is it?
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          • Darin Jordan
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Apr 2007
            • 8332

            #80

            id also like to see what you get from an m447/3 not sure if octura makes one but you can always detongue a x447/x
            I can tell what you get with that with the factory ESC on 6S.... dangling connectors on the motor leads... at least with the X447/3 that I normally run on my IM31 w/1500KV on 4S.
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            Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
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            • TheShaughnessy
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Mar 2011
              • 1419

              #81
              Originally posted by Darin Jordan View Post
              I can tell what you get with that with the factory ESC on 6S.... dangling connectors on the motor leads... at least with the X447/3 that I normally run on my IM31 w/1500KV on 4S.
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              what makes you say that? a x447/3 has less overall pitch than a x645 which people say they are running. 6s is greek to me but it seemed like it was in line with other props folks are running. Not saying run it for 6 min straight but I would think you could make a few passes.

              Your 447 is pitched up pretty good by the looks of it.

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              • Darin Jordan
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Apr 2007
                • 8332

                #82
                Pretty simple math, really...

                6S= 6×3.7V= 22.2v. That's assuming some excellent cells.

                22.2V x 1650KV = 36,630 RPM

                An X447/3 is listed at 2.590". Assuming that a well prepped stock prop has around 30% Slip...

                The Theoretical speed with this prop at that RPM is 61.xxx MPH.

                Since I haven't read anyone getting there yet, and most are trying even higher pitched props, one can assume that the lost speed is going somewhere. It's usually in heat.

                Heat kills. :-)

                Plus.... I was one of the original testers and I tried it with the expected results. Solder in the bottom of the hull and desoldered motor leads.

                Yes... that prop has considerably more pitch and less slip.
                Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                • kfxguy
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 8750

                  #83
                  Originally posted by arrover View Post
                  Thanks KFX. Very interesting. I think you said you're testing a ESC in your Voracity. How many amps is it?
                  150a. It's been good so far.
                  32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                  • montymike
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 774

                    #84
                    Originally posted by kfxguy View Post
                    150a. It's been good so far.
                    What brand?

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                    • Rafael_Lopez
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2015
                      • 470

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Darin Jordan View Post
                      Pretty simple math, really...

                      6S= 6×3.7V= 22.2v. That's assuming some excellent cells.

                      22.2V x 1650KV = 36,630 RPM

                      An X447/3 is listed at 2.590". Assuming that a well prepped stock prop has around 30% Slip...

                      The Theoretical speed with this prop at that RPM is 61.xxx MPH.

                      Since I haven't read anyone getting there yet, and most are trying even higher pitched props, one can assume that the lost speed is going somewhere. It's usually in heat.

                      Heat kills. :-)

                      Plus.... I was one of the original testers and I tried it with the expected results. Solder in the bottom of the hull and desoldered motor leads.

                      Yes... that prop has considerably more pitch and less slip.
                      It says a lot for the ESC that it didn't burn up, and the solder on the motor connectors gave out first, with that large 3 blade prop on 6s. I bet it was really fast for a very short time, lol.


                      Good to see all the stuff happening in both this, and the other thread.
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                      • Darin Jordan
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 8332

                        #86
                        Originally posted by Rafael_Lopez View Post
                        It says a lot for the ESC that it didn't burn up, and the solder on the motor connectors gave out first, with that large 3 blade prop on 6s. I bet it was really fast for a very short time, lol.
                        It was certainly "FUN" with that prop. The ESC held up just fine!
                        Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                        "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                        • montymike
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 774

                          #87
                          Should have no problem with a m447 or a x448

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                          • montymike
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 774

                            #88
                            Ran my boat on maiden voyage s&b stock prop but tossed it in my prop box for backup. Went with m447 boat Ran flawlessly. Only thing I did was sharpen rudder, turn fins. Ran batteries(revolectric) 3s 5500 silver 1/2 in from rear did not touch any other adjustment. Did not GPS all electronic were cool. Love this boat...

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                            • paulfromtulsa
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 211

                              #89
                              Originally posted by montymike View Post
                              Ran my boat on maiden voyage s&b stock prop but tossed it in my prop box for backup. Went with m447 boat Ran flawlessly. Only thing I did was sharpen rudder, turn fins. Ran batteries(revolectric) 3s 5500 silver 1/2 in from rear did not touch any other adjustment. Did not GPS all electronic were cool. Love this boat...
                              Did the boat seem faster with the stock prop or the 447?

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                              • montymike
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 774

                                #90
                                Don't know did not run stock prop, sorry will next run...

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