Namba Voting for Modification and Additions for Electric 1/8 Scale Unlimited Hydro"

[raptor347]

I said there were some problems with the rule proposal.

First off, unlike P-ltd and 1/10 scale, the new 1/8 scale rule doesn't state that the motors must be run as delivered from the factory, so modding is fair game. The factory markings constitute a legal motor and should remain visible for inspection. Missing or altered factory markings will constitute an illegal motor.

Definitive battery tech is pretty much impossible at the pond (and difficult in the shop), so all cells will require a factory label to verify capacity and discharge rate. Re-wrapped or unreadable labels will not be allowed for competition. The appropriate factory label and pre-heat voltage check will count for tech.

Factory labels on ESC's will be required to verify they meet the requirements for rule 6.d.i.

Prop diameter should be checked each heat at the same time pre-heat battery voltage is checked. Should be an easy fixture to build/use.

That should cover tech inspection for the new FE 1/8 scale rules.

[Doby]

You don't race NAMBA John.

I know...it would just be nice if both organizations were trashed and made into one with a common set of rules for all classes. Would make life in general easier.

[leonard feeback]

Terry, I did run nitro 1/8 th scale.

[madmikepags]

As an Avid Scale racer, 2 time NAMBA scale "UNLIMITED" National Champion, and owner of 4, yes 4 scale boats that don't conform to these rules, I would now have to reconfigure all of my boats. So will the other 6 guys in my club. This is beyond unfair. I would have to buy all new 4 cell batteries. New motors and retest and retune my boats that I have spent many YEARS testing and tuning to get them where they are. I don't know what the thought is behind these rules??? 3 of my boats simply could not run with these rules, they are too heavy. So lets say we can only use a 45mm prop for P-limited classes too????
I have 350 props and I should be allowed to chose any prop I want to run on my boat. And what happens to the guy that doesn't know anything about props and how to mod or tune them? I have 50mm props that run faster than most guys 57mm props! how fair is that, now that he doesn't have enough knowledge to get the most out of the power limits that would be imposed. This is a rediculous proposal that has no merit, it's called "UNLIMITED" for a reason. Thats my opinion.

[raptor347]

Mike,
Sorry, but the proposal passed 369 to 157. We're stuck with it.

The reality is you can run them in your club just as you always have. The new rule set will be used at nationals and time trials.

[T.S.Davis]

Mike, you could just run IMPBA. Your boats are legal as is. From memory that is.

[Doug Smock]

http://www.intlwaters.com/index.php?showtopic=74695&hl=

[T.S.Davis]

http://www.intlwaters.com/index.php?showtopic=74695&hl=

bahahahahahahahaha

[Fluid]

I’ve stayed out of this discussion since I don’t have a dog in the hunt, but it seems that those who proposed the new rules got their wish. (I’m surprised so many members even voted.) I wonder how many racers with newly-illegal boats will modify them so they fit the new rules.

Actually, as Brian stated NAMBA clubs can run whatever rules they want. They can still travel all over the country to race at each other’s events - just not at the Nats or at time trials. But wait, the Nats host club could run an “exhibition class” of 1/8 boats under the old rules. Seems that may be the best solution for those who are so unhappy, but then I don’t even own an 1/8th scale boat.


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[madmikepags]

WELL screw NAMBA I will have my club and implore all NY NJ and PA clubs switch to IMPBA and I will never race a NAMBA race again, except this nationals and just scale to annihilate everyone with their new rules, I just went out this morning and tested my new 8 cell setup and its 68mph down the staright 4 mph slower than my 10 cell setup. Im still pissed BC my other 3 boats wont run on 8 cell. See u all in texas.

[rayzerdesigns]

10s is way more efficient.. but they got their spec 1/8 now..didn’t know u we’re going mikey.. will see u there

[madmikepags]

Like I said just decided I'm going just to run scale!

[madmikepags]

Yup 10s way more efficient, for a full race plus a mill lap with my 10s setup I use 2800mah, with this setup I ran today I used about 4200mah, thats 50% more power than my 10s setup and EVERYTHING motor battery and speedo were all much hotter.
10s:
Motor 111'
speedo 117'
batts 108'
8s
motor 144'
speedo 167'
batts 141'
All to go 4mph SLOWER!!!!

Thats ludicrous, I wont subject my equipment to that abuse on a regular basis. (or for any period of time)
I pride myself on my setups being fast and efficient. This is just so bad, these people want to limit the speeds at the cost of ruinung their equipment. Did anyone even think this one out??? And by the way I got these speeds and temps using only a 52mm prop, not even close to the max diameter allowed. The rule is stupid the people who proposed it are stupid and the people who voted for it are STUPID. I'm not mincing words you are all STUPID STUPID STUPID. I'm so hell bent to destroy all of you at "your" nats that I will go thru a motor speedo and batts in every heat just to beat you all.
SOOOOO PISSED!!!!!

[T.S.Davis]

Yer just going to prove their concept Mikey.

[madmikepags]

Oh BTW with this setup I ran 6 laps on a legal course in 75 seconds just so u guys have a number to shoot for!!!! My fast lap was 11.5 seconds.