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  • ysae
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2017
    • 3

    #61
    I see. I wonder between the veles and ul-19 hydro, which can turn at faster speeds before flipping? Rafael had said the veles digs into the water more and turns vs the blackjack/geico which will drift more. Perhaps ul-19 drifts into a turn more than the veles.

    And nice run at 69 mph with just a prop change

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    • kfxguy
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Oct 2013
      • 8750

      #62
      I wouldn't mind getting my hands on one of these hulls so I can see what I could do with it
      32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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      • Two-speed
        Junior Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 9

        #63
        IMG_3938.jpgIMG_3941.jpgIMG_3942.jpg

        Just picked this up from my LHS yesterday. What a beauty! The owner of the LHS that ordered it for me was dying to look at it. We opened it in the store and drew a crowd, lol! Quality is simply amazing! The fiberglass looks about as thick as on the hull of my 212X Yamaha.

        Can't wait to get it in the water. Lake's a little choppy this morning, so probably this afternoon before she gets wet.

        Great job ProBoat!

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        • vinnyp
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2017
          • 283

          #64
          I got mine today. Looks like a nice boat. Hopefully, this damn wind will die down tomorrow so I can run it. All I did to it was stuff some floatation under the deck, add zip ties to the all the water lines and grease the flex. We'll see how it runs.

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          • vinnyp
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2017
            • 283

            #65
            Not looking good here this morning. WINDY!!! It may die down late this afternoon.
            Last edited by vinnyp; 09-10-2017, 05:37 AM.

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            • eric113
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2011
              • 327

              #66
              Originally posted by MADRCER
              Got the negative trim out of the strut.
              Did you set the strut to neutral?

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              • flattrack
                Member
                • Jun 2017
                • 30

                #67
                Looking at the pics of the pads, it appears the steps are much more shallow and the front wet area is reduced. I could see a little improvement with reduction in hydrodynamic drag but not enough to get over 20 mph more than a MG 29 V3 on 6S.

                I see the top deck shape is a little more concave to resemble an airfoil similar to a Lucas Oil hull (much faster hull currently than a MG 29 V3 also). I'm wondering if ProBoat was able to get more speed out of this hull by increase aerodynamic lift with the top deck shape?

                Reason why I'm asking...I'd like to get those speeds with my MG 29 V3 and not have to buy another boat.

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                • MADRCER
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2017
                  • 761

                  #68
                  Originally posted by flattrack View Post
                  Looking at the pics of the pads, it appears the steps are much more shallow and the front wet area is reduced. I could see a little improvement with reduction in hydrodynamic drag but not enough to get over 20 mph more than a MG 29 V3 on 6S.

                  I see the top deck shape is a little more concave to resemble an airfoil similar to a Lucas Oil hull (much faster hull currently than a MG 29 V3 also). I'm wondering if ProBoat was able to get more speed out of this hull by increase aerodynamic lift with the top deck shape?

                  Reason why I'm asking...I'd like to get those speeds with my MG 29 V3 and not have to buy another boat.
                  It can be done...see the below video of my MG 29 V3.

                  Last edited by MADRCER; 09-18-2017, 08:37 PM.
                  TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17

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                  • flattrack
                    Member
                    • Jun 2017
                    • 30

                    #69
                    For comparison, your MG 29 V3, what speed can you get on 4S? Will it hang next to the Motley Crew cat you have with the Veles ESC and motor in the MG?

                    I'm wondering if most of the Veles speed is maybe increase in wattage from Veles new motor and more efficiency? Maybe a bump in timing from factory?

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                    • Fluid
                      Fast and Furious
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 7990

                      #70
                      Cory, the new 2000 Kv motor has about half the IR of the old motor, it also has more torque and runs cooler. I would not expect an extra 20 mph by switching motors, but the difference will certainly be noticeable.

                      Timing is all in the ESC, not the motor.


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                      • fweasel
                        master of some
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 4335

                        #71
                        Veles runs at 7.5* timing and the V3 cats originally shipped set to 15*, then later reduced to 7.5* for more headroom. The Veles has a much better motor, as already detailed above. It also has a more aggressive prop than the V3 boats in stock form. Madrcer's V3 MG is excellent proof how much better the motor and prop alone are in the new Veles. The longer pads on the Veles hull will help handling, I'm told, but I don't think the hull itself is the biggest improvement in terms of gained speed.
                        Vac-U-Tug Jr (13mph)

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                        • iop65
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 367

                          #72
                          Hull is narrower and longer ride pads so will not blow over as fast

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                          • klauskra
                            Junior Member
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 9

                            #73
                            Hi there from Bavaria

                            Looks like the hull (ride pads) are flat! Because on the MG hull V2, that I owned, there wasn't! The ride pads were convex! So on glassy water, she bounced!!! A blue printing was necessary.
                            MG V3 seems also to have flat ride pads?!

                            Greedings, Klaus

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                            • flattrack
                              Member
                              • Jun 2017
                              • 30

                              #74
                              Hey MADRCER, just to confirm, the old 2000kv 3650 is 3910 and the new is 3831?

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                              • eric113
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 327

                                #75
                                Originally posted by flattrack View Post
                                Hey MADRCER, just to confirm, the old 2000kv 3650 is 3910 and the new is 3831?
                                Dynm3910 = old motor
                                Dynm3831 = new motor

                                Are you go try the veles prop also?

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