56-102 Monster coming down the pipeline

[twissted]

I bought the equipment to do the same. And also to balance the motors. I'm looking possibly running 10s as the way to go. A pair of A-spec with the TP5850 motors should be just the ticket to get this build there. I think I will try the SSS5694 800kv motors first. As they will keep me in the fast and cheap mode for this build. that will keep the rpms low 3.7vx800kvx10s= 29600rpm or run it at 12sx800x3.7v=35520 this is the same as the 1200kv motor running on 8s. Which brings up the money part. I could run on 8s and not buy batteries at all, because I have 8 of the 4s batteris that I run in my buggy in series. With the SSS5694 motor in it. I did add a mesh cove to the back of the motor so that dirt would'nt harm the motor. The power is amazing!

[Steven Vaccaro]

Sorry but I had no choice but to clean this up. Time to get it back on topic. Twisted I suggest you post pictures of your big cat builds before giving advise to other members.

[ray schrauwen]

There is an off-topic section.

[twissted]

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...ga_Meter_.html
I hope this helps you in your testing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5vawXZ9Q6s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpDGRLRFDNY

http://www.hobbypartz.com/moac1.html

[twissted]

I would like to point out that this started when I was telling everyone that the sss5694 is a great motor.

Sorry but I had no choice but to clean this up. Time to get it back on topic. Twisted I suggest you post pictures of your big cat builds before giving advise to other members.

[twissted]

This is true. I was pointing out that the motors are rated at this rpm. I run this motor on 8s. I don't have a clue as to why people think I'm doing other wise. If I was to run 12s It would be with the 800kv motor. I would end up with the same rpm. I do think that the TP Power motors will out perform the Neu.

And if money wasn't really a concern and quality was I know I would be talking to s neu. Have one custom built. I have already thought about it but the $600, I would rather burn up less expensive ones. Even the very high dollars motors will melt, split, demagnetize, seize, arc, spin bearings, short, burn, just as easily as a less expensive motor- its all in the combinations of inputs, volts, amps, watts, load, heat, ect,,,, and well post the video of you running them and your setup.


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[twissted]

tp-power-5850-6y-600kv.jpgtp-power-5850-6y-600kv-1264.jpgtp-power-5850-6y-600kv-1265.jpg TP Power 5850 motors look a lot a like other than the ribs in the can. This is one of the reasons I think that tp makes the SSS line for Hor Racing.
oper;470862]I know what these motors look like, if you want I can take the can apart. And I do not believe these motors will last any time spinning any prop at 50000 rpms.


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[dana]

I do think that the TP Power motors will out perform the Neu.

how many neu motors do you own?

[dana]

i bet the tp motors out perform lehner too

[twissted]

I have none at the moment. I traded it off for a LRP motor.
I take that back I have 2 Kyohso mini infernos that use the esc's and one the runs the Neu motor as well.

[twissted]

They might look at the build that runs a pair of 5850 motors in a 94" MHZ boat. He was running Lehner motors. read the hole thing. Get back with me. It orange in color and is fast.
http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...(94-)-electric

[KartRacer]

If it quacks like a duck ........
LoL

[twissted]

Yes the boat ran faster with the Lehner motors (Not by much). But the big question is why. I seems that he is very happy with the TP5850 motors and it is very impressive! I think in my 60" build, that is in the near future will do well with these motors.

[Punisher 67]

Twissted being a Lehner owner of 3 X 3080'S and 3 X 2280's I am going to clue you in a bit here - as always you always get what you pay for and the Lehners are no exception . There is no motor out there that is built like the Lehner line they have a very unique rotor design and are just packed full of wire making them easily one of the most efficient designs out there . Neu 's are also well designed but as of late I see some quality control issues hopefully that will be nipped in the butt . But needless to say a very large and extremely powerful line of motors .

So the big question why was the speed so close - Maybe cause the KV was also close between the two design's and with the same cell count the speed would have been close also . Now lets start adding power well past the manufactures rated limit similar on both motors and see if the high precision Chinese motor can handle the heat - I 'll bet you it grenades well before the Lehner even see's any stress . I noticed on your pictures of the 5850 that it was Herve from the uniques section logo next to the motors so can you explain why you are using someone else's product to make your point . I do not know you and I do not want to insult you either but you certainly have made a few ignorant assumptions .

i cannot put this any nicer but there is no F**KING way a Hor SSS5294 will push 12KV on a continual output and anyone thinking it will is an absolute retard . There is just not enough motor or mass to support those kind of numbers unless it is just for a few seconds on a saws run . I have seen the inside of a 11KV Lehner 3080 and also the pinner interior of a 4 & 6 pole 5692 the Hor's equivalent - It is like comparing a garden hose to a sewer pipe in fact a 56110 would be severely taxed trying to even come close and its a 25% larger motor . I just cannot see any magical magnetic and wiring combination that makes that motor so special and above all others .

Quit using everyone else's examples and maybe post some of your own real world experiances .

[keithbradley]

Twissted being a Lehner owner of 3 X 3080'S and 3 X 2280's I am going to clue you in a bit here - as always you always get what you pay for and the Lehners are no exception . There is no motor out there that is built like the Lehner line they have a very unique rotor design and are just packed full of wire making them easily one of the most efficient designs out there . Neu 's are also well designed but as of late I see some quality control issues hopefully that will be nipped in the butt . But needless to say a very large and extremely powerful line of motors .

So the big question why was the speed so close - Maybe cause the KV was also close between the two design's and with the same cell count the speed would have been close also . Now lets start adding power well past the manufactures rated limit similar on both motors and see if the high precision Chinese motor can handle the heat - I 'll bet you it grenades well before the Lehner even see's any stress . I noticed on your pictures of the 5850 that it was Herve from the uniques section logo next to the motors so can you explain why you are using someone else's product to make your point . I do not know you and I do not want to insult you either but you certainly have made a few ignorant assumptions .

i cannot put this any nicer but there is no F**KING way a Hor SSS5294 will push 12KV on a continual output and anyone thinking it will is an absolute retard . There is just not enough motor or mass to support those kind of numbers unless it is just for a few seconds on a saws run . I have seen the inside of a 11KV Lehner 3080 and also the pinner interior of a 4 & 6 pole 5692 the Hor's equivalent - It is like comparing a garden hose to a sewer pipe in fact a 56110 would be severely taxed trying to even come close and its a 25% larger motor . I just cannot see any magical magnetic and wiring combination that makes that motor so special and above all others .

Quit using everyone else's examples and maybe post some of your own real world experiances .

What do you run your 2280s in Peter? I'm considering a pair for one of my upcoming builds...
Also, what are your thoughts on the Lehner kv ratings and how they compare to Neu's...maybe we can add some USEFULL info to this thread!