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  • maxmekker
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 412

    #91
    Yea doc, got it covered. It's not that cold, just to cold to swim for the boat if it....... uho did I just say that..... hehe.
    Drammen rock City

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    • maxmekker
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2010
      • 412

      #92
      2 sets of lipos today, barely made it before it was to dark.
      Sorry about the wind noise. 45-90c lipos first, then 65-130 later in the clip. Temp readings at the end.
      It feels ok, not as strong as my friends mystic with the same setup though . Also it has some slight stutter as you can hear @ 1,44-1,46 and 2,25-2,27 in the clip .like it's cutting out a fraction of a second

      Running a x442 in this clip. Will test with 642 an 445 tomorrow.

      Drammen rock City

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      • tlandauer
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Apr 2011
        • 5660

        #93
        Looks great! I think the boat is really dialed in and very quick, do you think it is just you who thinks it is slower than your friend's?
        I hear the stutter, but I am not knowledgeable to say anything.
        In any case, glad you fixed the ESC and thanks to drwayne, I learned something very important!
        Too many boats, not enough time...

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        • maxmekker
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2010
          • 412

          #94
          hehe maybe. I'm just impressed with the mystic hull, better molded than my geico, that's for sure. I think I will try to add the mystic rudder during the winter, less stuff in the water 'behind there'

          besides that it's running again, more packs tomorrow , will report back then to let you know how it holds up :-)
          Drammen rock City

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          • Basstronics
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Jun 2008
            • 2303

            #95
            And I did assemble them backwards... d'oh.

            Desoldering braid to the rescue!
            42" Osprey, 32" Pursuit, 26" Bling Rocket (rescue), Blizzard Rigger, JAE 21FE rigger, Hobby King rigger (RIP)

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            • millzee
              Ozzie Bloke
              • Nov 2010
              • 1092

              #96
              Originally posted by ray schrauwen View Post
              Can I ask why is it bad to remove the old ones as pictured and run it as pictured? What happens? What will go wrong?

              EDIT: That is if they have all gone bad, not if they were still good.
              RE post #45
              NOthing
              http://www.youtube.com/user/1millzee?feature=mhum
              "Gimmy Toyz for FUN"

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              • drwayne
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • May 2008
                • 2977

                #97
                Originally posted by Basstronics View Post
                And I did assemble them backwards... d'oh.

                Desoldering braid to the rescue!
                Yep, that's what my edumacated eyes told me.

                The metal canisters containing the capacitor should not touch any power rails.. and all yours touched both red/black !
                That's a nasty short out waiting to happen... kerBOOM.


                Millzee.
                With low loading the capacitor bank alternative ( post#1) was good.
                Under more demand, as informed, the esc failed.
                Have exchanged one my own to the bloke who purchased that esc s/h.. he now runs with big smiles regularly
                - I do hope to infuse life back into this deceased.
                This how-to thread will hopefully educate the unlearned away from such cremations.
                W
                Wayne Schutte PhdCSE BaSE BaEE. Australian, & damn proud of it YOUTUBE
                @ 36" H&M Maritmo twin1512/1800 6S1P 88mph @ 40" drag hydro#1 twin 5692 12S1P .....always for fun @

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                • millzee
                  Ozzie Bloke
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 1092

                  #98
                  [QUOTE=drwayne;

                  Millzee.
                  With low loading the capacitor bank alternative ( post#1) was good.
                  Under more demand, as informed, the esc failed.
                  Have exchanged one my own to the bloke who purchased that esc s/h.. he now runs with big smiles regularly
                  - I do hope to infuse life back into this deceased.
                  This how-to thread will hopefully educate the unlearned away from such cremations.
                  W[/QUOTE]

                  so a x450/3, neu 1527 1.5d 1500kv on 6s in a df35 pirate isn't high draw?
                  http://www.youtube.com/user/1millzee?feature=mhum
                  "Gimmy Toyz for FUN"

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                  • millzee
                    Ozzie Bloke
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 1092

                    #99
                    I found the answer to my part in this, post #9 at the botom
                    http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...wordfish-240hv

                    Played yesterday and won both games, we wear green so the white is not an issue!!
                    http://www.youtube.com/user/1millzee?feature=mhum
                    "Gimmy Toyz for FUN"

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                    • maxmekker
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 412

                      #100
                      More testing today,and it's holding up nice.

                      Only issue is the 65-130c lipo's and the m445 prop. I only had one pair of 45-90c so I could not test that and the m445 to se if that had any effect.

                      6 min's clip ore skip to 2,00 to see the M445 run. Not sure why, maybe anybody have a theory..

                      Drammen rock City

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                      • drwayne
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • May 2008
                        • 2977

                        #101
                        Originally posted by maxmekker View Post
                        More testing today,and it's holding up nice.
                        Only issue is the 65-130c lipo's and the m445 prop. I only had one pair of 45-90c so I could not test that and the m445 to se if that had any effect.
                        6 min's clip ore skip to 2,00 to see the M445 run. Not sure why, maybe anybody have a theory..
                        [/video]
                        maxmekker should take this to the video thread so lots more ppl can see and admire and comment

                        I see&hear the boat at speed surging hophophophophop on the prop.
                        X series props are low lift, but still too much for yours... x642+x442 show this by hopping the backside around badly.
                        Or.. and at 2.19 that bent edge made me wonder..are the props not sharp ?....
                        This will kill the esc due Amp spiking as it loads/releases on the prop.
                        LMK W

                        ps.. Love the great vid work showing temps and props.. where are the girls watching and cheering ?
                        Wayne Schutte PhdCSE BaSE BaEE. Australian, & damn proud of it YOUTUBE
                        @ 36" H&M Maritmo twin1512/1800 6S1P 88mph @ 40" drag hydro#1 twin 5692 12S1P .....always for fun @

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                        • maxmekker
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 412

                          #102
                          Haha you are to funny. :-)

                          Well I dont do my props , I got them all done from funrcboats . I know they should maybe be DT ore maybe eveen sharper , but I can't sharpen props for sh....

                          The one I have used mostly, well all the time infact (since , like you point out, the boat is heavy on the whawhawha hophophop etc ) is the M445, that makes MY geico the most stable. I normaly don't use the X props I have, they work wonderful on my FRIENDS mystic, the boat flies with the X642 prop, and almost zero hopedihophopedihophopedihop, but he has been lucky with the mold of his boat. No need to fix the transoms, and the rudder assembly is wery clean from proboat on mystic compared to that on the geico boat.

                          Anyway , as you can se, it wont run on the 65-130c + the M445. I did not have another 45-90c lipo pack with me to test if that had any cause, next time I will :-)

                          I will drive it like it is for the rest of the month, and then it's on the shelf, and I'll just get a new one next year.

                          ps: the girls were in the bush's behind me getting ready for skinny dipping, unfortunately the camera was low on battery :-\
                          Drammen rock City

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                          • drwayne
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • May 2008
                            • 2977

                            #103
                            the 65-130 are heavier than 45-90 ?
                            Move them back in the hull to reset cog.

                            You need to reset your priorities.
                            Girls first, playtime rc boats last.

                            W
                            Wayne Schutte PhdCSE BaSE BaEE. Australian, & damn proud of it YOUTUBE
                            @ 36" H&M Maritmo twin1512/1800 6S1P 88mph @ 40" drag hydro#1 twin 5692 12S1P .....always for fun @

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                            • Paul21
                              Member
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 42

                              #104
                              Hi couldt find info in forum search so try here hope it ok. So plan on running 12s on 5692 730kv sf240hv pro twin setup and need to find out what is used to stop spark when plug in batts and now to install it tks

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                              • drwayne
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • May 2008
                                • 2977

                                #105
                                Hi
                                2 ways to set up 12S ..

                                either 12S a side..eg 4 x 6S packs



                                or 12S shared eg 2 x 6S


                                Here's a deck mounted set
                                IMG_0324-1.JPG

                                Under the deck I place a piece of nylon cutting board ~10mm thick as support for the plugs.
                                I roughen madly before epoxy in place.
                                Drill through holes for main plugs + 1/32" for clearance
                                Insert presoldered plugs from inside hull, tape over top, invert hull and flood plug area with epoxy.
                                Wait 12+ hrs.
                                voila'.


                                The swordfish 240HV have an on/off switch.
                                The above picture show a deck mounted switch to remote this feature.
                                use a DPDT micro switch, remember to keep the 2 esc as separate entities at this switch. .

                                this diag shows wiring beneath the plug
                                . ___
                                esc1black---- |0 0| ----esc2black
                                esc1 red------|0 0| ----esc2 red
                                blank ---------|0 0| -------blank
                                .
                                Last edited by drwayne; 10-02-2012, 02:37 AM.
                                Wayne Schutte PhdCSE BaSE BaEE. Australian, & damn proud of it YOUTUBE
                                @ 36" H&M Maritmo twin1512/1800 6S1P 88mph @ 40" drag hydro#1 twin 5692 12S1P .....always for fun @

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