POLL: Who here is a member of IMPBA or NAMBA

[Bill-SOCAL]

For my NAMBA club. I would like to be able to run multiple 4s lipos in parallel for more mAhs. It sucks only being able able to run 4S1P

There is nothing in the NAMBA Safety Rues or Race Rules that prevents a 4S2P set up. In fact many P monos are set up like that.

[highndry]

Thats why I joined NAMBA...Nevertheless, I will join IMPBA also to support the hobby

[Darin Jordan]

There is nothing in the NAMBA Safety Rues or Race Rules that prevents a 4S2P set up. In fact many P monos are set up like that.

Well... there is, actually... you are limited to 2P... which is useless and silly in my opinion...

WHY should someone not be able to run say 4S4P of 2000mah packs for 8000mah total, or 4S5P for 10,000 mah total???

It's a really silly rule...

[rockwerks]

Well... there is, actually... you are limited to 2P... which is useless and silly in my opinion...

WHY should someone not be able to run say 4S4P of 2000mah packs for 8000mah total, or 4S5P for 10,000 mah total???

It's a really silly rule...

Yep that would actually keep the cost down as you could run less expensive packs

[sailr]

Our club looked long and hard at the insurance plans under both NAMBA and IMPBA and decided NAMBA offered a much better plan and the membership is less expensive as well. That is the main reason we became a NAMBA club. At some later date we may decide to be dual sanctioned.

NAMBA. So I can run in backyard with other 1:1 boating activity and still be covered. That also applies to anyone who runs here as long as they are covered. IMPBA does not offer the same coverage. I have a legal opinion on that issue.

[highndry]

Did somebody say something about Jerseys/Crackerboxes? How about this on 4S ?

http://www.mackproductsrc.com/705%20Jersey%20Speed%20Skiff.htm

[Bill-SOCAL]

Well... there is, actually... you are limited to 2P... which is useless and silly in my opinion...

I guessed you missed the point. The post I responded to indicated that NAMBA only allows 4S1P, which is not true. 4S2P or 10S2P are just fine. But 2P is the limit, beats me why, but that is the way it is right now!

[LuckyDuc]

I guessed you missed the point. The post I responded to indicated that NAMBA only allows 4S1P, which is not true. 4S2P or 10S2P are just fine. But 2P is the limit, beats me why, but that is the way it is right now!

I errored in my previous post by saying 4S1P limit.
I should have stated that my NAMBA club doesn't allow me to run 3 x 2200mAh 4s packs in parallel. I would like to do this for cost reasons... I can get Flightpower 4s 220omah packs for $23 each ($69 for 3) and parallel them for 6600mAh 4S on the cheap. I have a butt load of 2200mah 4S packs. Why shouldn't I be able to use them as a 4S3P setup?
I think that you should be able to parallel more than 2 packs in the 4S classes for the reason above.

Again sorry for saying 4S1P

[Ub Hauled]

Jan... I disagree with this assessment... this assumes there is only one way to get things done. This is clearly not the case... Putting together a working package is the key...

Sorry, what I meant to say was that was the most likely way for things to be done, other ways are also possible, that's pretty obvious, gimme some credit here.

For example... someone could easily put together a package based on a Scorpian outrunner that works on 3S instead of 4S... Would have tons of torque... put it in a matching hull, and go just as fast... VOLTAGE doesn't make speed... it just makes RPMs happen... with so many motor choices and KV options, the combinations are endless...[/QUOTE]

Voltage will give you raw power, what you do with it is your deal... my point was, people will go with the largest reserve of power and tap what they need out of that, I am yet to see someone race with something less then maximum voltage allowed.
I do understand that you are a innovative guy and think outside of the box, but I am having a hard time visualizing what you are seeing in your head, that's all.

[teach]

Kind of on to[ic here. I seem to remember SSH/LSH what ever it's deemed was limited to 27" (I think) hulls. When my club was packing up for this years Nats that rule seemed to disapear. Was it just a misread type thing or was it changed? Seem to remember it was a little bit of a hot topic when the UL-1 busted into the scene.

[Darin Jordan]

my point was, people will go with the largest reserve of power and tap what they need out of that, I am yet to see someone race with something less then maximum voltage allowed.

This is simply not the case... In "up to 2S" and "Up to 4S" setups, sure, most would likely just go with the max voltage... why wouldn't you in that case? It's simpler...

But if you look at what is done in larger setups...., like 1/8th scales as an example... some run 6S or 8S and 2P, while others choose to run 10S1P. All of them can compete.

Steven V. just told us a few days ago about his 3S setups...

It's all in the package.

And all of this is still elementary, because you are restricted as to the size of the hull you can run, so there is a practical limit to how much power you can put into it... Too much, or some "in reserve", really won't change the balance of competition. Those with the most racable setups and driving skill will still be on top in the end.

But... back to your original statement about there being "only a handful of motors" for a given class... WHY would this be true in "my" set of classes, but not true already today? In the 2S and 4S classes, nothing much has changed.... In the "up to 10S" classes, I don't see this being the case at all, since you have so many different combos that will give you the same amount of power... The motor combos are endless...

[Darin Jordan]

Kind of on to[ic here. I seem to remember SSH/LSH what ever it's deemed was limited to 27" (I think) hulls. When my club was packing up for this years Nats that rule seemed to disapear. Was it just a misread type thing or was it changed? Seem to remember it was a little bit of a hot topic when the UL-1 busted into the scene.

LSH has always had a MINIMUM hull lenth, but no maximum... I think it's maximum may now be the P-Limit of 34", but I'd have to go back and read the rules...

Inconsequential, really, since the "LSH" run at the Nats wasn't an LSH that was in the current rules.... they were basically restricted motor P-Sport boats... which would be limited to 34"...

[LiPo Power]

START OUR OWN FE ORGANIZATION.....period.

NAFERO

North American Fast Electric Racing Organization

Then we could have specialty "nitro" and "gas" classes.

Sign me in DOBY...

[T.S.Davis]

Darin, what manufacturers are holding off on production because they don't know what the rules are going to be? That's the arguement for length restrictions. I wish I had your connections.

1/8 scale? I just got done hosting the nats. There were no 6s boats. I didn't see any 8s boats either.

Doesn't matter. You can all expect yet another new proposal for FE in the spring. As there is every spring. Should we expect proposals for both organization or just one?

Has anyone run for US1 at the IMPBA FE nationals yet? How'd that go?

[Bill-SOCAL]

Darin, what manufacturers are holding off on production because they don't know what the rules are going to be?

Actually, I'd like to know who all these "manufacturers" are who are being influenced.

There is Randy at BBY of course, but who else? Delta Force? Aeromarine? MHz? Who? And really, does anyone think that DF in China gives a rat's behind what the competition rules are in the US that cover what only 20 to 25 people (NATS participation the last couple of years) are doing??

I mean really, who actually thinks that any of these folks are watching the NAMBA or IMPBA FE rules and wringing their hands wondering what new rules are going to be passed and what type of boat they should make next and in what size/power configuration?