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  • Doug Smock
    Moderator
    • Apr 2007
    • 5359

    #61
    Thanks guys!!!

    Jim, Brian made the same observation. I will add some more negative (approx 1 degree now) and do some more testing Friday during open water. Man, can you say down to the wire?? lol
    Thanks again!!
    Doug
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    • Jeepers
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • May 2007
      • 2050

      #62
      good thing you went with the adjustable strut!

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      • jcald2000
        Senior Member
        • May 2008
        • 786

        #63
        Also, do you the weight at 60% sponsons and 40% strut, it does make a difference!

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        • Doug Smock
          Moderator
          • Apr 2007
          • 5359

          #64
          Originally posted by jcald2000 View Post
          Also, do you the weight at 60% sponsons and 40% strut, it does make a difference!
          Jim, I was delighted to see that I am very close the way the boat is set up with a 13.25" CG. I am just a tad heavy at the sponsons. That should improve some when I get the 4200 that I have on order for this boat. Right now I have a 5500 in it.

          Thanks again sir!
          Doug
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          • teach
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2008
            • 509

            #65
            Was it just the video or was the water a little choppy?

            That thing corners!!

            Also a newguy question. Why cut down such a large prop instead of cutting down maybe a 45mm prop? Sorry I'm doing my best to learn props.

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            • Doug Smock
              Moderator
              • Apr 2007
              • 5359

              #66
              Teach the water was a bit choppy, wind was blowing and yes, this thing is on rails!!!!

              I am by NO means a prop expert!!! Hand raised high in the air!!

              I think typically when the diameter of props is cut down it's because the application needs more ''push" (blade area) with less diameter. My SAWs monos for example don't like big wheels, bad things happen. lol
              This prop was tuned for a mono by Andy Brown.
              I ran the prop because it was the best prop I had for baseline data with this boat.

              This is my first rigger, I am having a blast and learning a ton!!! Can't wait to get back to the pond.

              Doug
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              • Doug Smock
                Moderator
                • Apr 2007
                • 5359

                #67
                Cowls from Vac-U-Boat

                I went to our good friend Phil Pace at Vac-u-Boat to see if he would be interested in making some cowls for the JAE 21 FE. See Pics.

                I really like the look of the "Stealth" cowl! If there is enough interest I'm sure Phil will make these available.
                If your boat is already built, it shouldn't be hard to remove the sub deck above the 2nd bulkhead so you can use the cowl.
                What do you think??

                Doug

                I have one in paint and will post pics again when it's on the boat.
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                • sailr
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 7128

                  #68
                  Love the stealth cowl! That is one purty lil booger Doug!
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                  • teach
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 509

                    #69
                    Originally posted by D.Smock View Post
                    I think typically when the diameter of props is cut down it's because the application needs more ''push" (blade area) with less diameter.
                    Doug
                    Great info, thank you for that.

                    Could the nitro guys use a cowl like that? They seem to be hunting cowls for the .12 and .21. Maybe the folks at Vacu-boat could make a little money with them as well.

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                    • HOTWATER
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 2419

                      #70
                      I like the streamlined one Doug! Seems to go well with the rest of the lines that the JAE has...
                      I think the rounded one looks like the Rigged Insanity too much (which I have...great kit!)
                      ...I would be interested.....Let me know when you get more info/ pricing...

                      Thanks!

                      -Kent
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                      • Jeepers
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • May 2007
                        • 2050

                        #71
                        Originally posted by D.Smock View Post
                        I went to our good friend Phil Pace at Vac-u-Boat to see if he would be interested in making some cowls for the JAE 21 FE. See Pics.

                        I really like the look of the "Stealth" cowl! If there is enough interest I'm sure Phil will make these available.
                        If your boat is already built, it shouldn't be hard to remove the sub deck above the 2nd bulkhead so you can use the cowl.
                        What do you think??

                        Doug

                        I have one in paint and will post pics again when it's on the boat.
                        yeah!!!! that looks sweet!

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                        • Chilli
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 3204

                          #72
                          Doug, Funny you brought up the cowls idea. I just got a couple cowls in the mail today that I ordered from Osborn Models (used on the Rigged Insanity). As it turns out, they were allot bigger than I thought and are a bit too wide for the JAE. That stealth cowl is da bomb! Goes great with the lines of the JAE. It looks so cool, the nitro guys will be jealous.


                          Also, I'm curious how you came up with the target 13.25 CG? Is that 40% of the distance between the tail end of the ski and the tail end of the sponsons riding surface? Would that give us the 60/40 weight bias that the JAE Gods say we need to strive for?

                          Thanks again for sharing your knowledge and making life easier for us newbies!
                          Mike Chirillo
                          www.capitolrcmodelboats.com

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                          • Doug Smock
                            Moderator
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 5359

                            #73
                            Mike, first off..... this is my first rigger, I am just ahead of you in the newbie line LOL

                            I ask for that figure from a individual who has done well with the boat. As it turns out my boat is almost dead nuts 60/40 with the CG at 13.25" measured from the transom.
                            This is with a Hyperion 5500 that I don't intend on running in it. I am just a tad heavy at the sponsons.

                            My opinion: CG at 13.25" will give us a real good starting point. However, if you have a couple of scales, use them.

                            Phil did a great job on the cowl and the vinyl windshield, I love it, glad you guys do too!!!
                            Here is my finished boat. The only thing I am going to change is the prop. I should learn a lot this weekend.

                            Thanks fellas!
                            Doug
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                            • dbuck
                              Junior Member
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 5

                              #74
                              Originally posted by teach View Post
                              Great info, thank you for that.

                              Could the nitro guys use a cowl like that? They seem to be hunting cowls for the .12 and .21. Maybe the folks at Vacu-boat could make a little money with them as well.
                              Yes, There are those of us nitro guys (including me) that are looking for cowls to cover our engines with. Of course they would have to be taller than those in the pics. Those are nice looking cowls, though!

                              David

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                              • Chilli
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 3204

                                #75
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