Mah resitrictions

[Doug Smock]

Some NAMBAnians are actually racing at Legg this weekend. Maybe we'll get some more thoughts after.

Yes and I noticed some of those paper label packs in one of the boats. I sure hope for records sake that they could still read the capacity on them.
I'm confident that the issue is in good hands.

[T.S.Davis]

Haha. You guys realize that this was the exact motivation for me having asked the question?

Some NAMBAnians are actually racing at Legg this weekend. Maybe we'll get some more thoughts after.

Let's not get bogged down with how the rule IS and focus on the truth. The truth is that there is no reason for them to be different. That's the collective hug John was talking about. Like I said, I race both orgs.

Maybe I'll just write a proposal. On paper I'm D2 director again with Fred retiring.

Nobody has sited a reason the limit should still be there. We just need some smarter way to deal with twins. That could get out of hand pretty quick.

[Doug Smock]

That's exactly what I was getting at.

Is he going to be turned away for the sake of a few Mah?

To more or less quote some schmuck that's on here quite a bit..."they're only toy boats fellas"

That's not an exact quote, but close enough. lol

[Doby]

. But perhaps it should be addresses before it becomes a problem for some poor guy that has traveled 12 hrs. to a race.

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That's exactly what I was getting at.

Is he going to be turned away for the sake of a few Mah?

To more or less quote some schmuck that's on here quite a bit..."they're only toy boats fellas"

[Doug Smock]

It was a hypothetical question Larry. But perhaps it should be addresses before it becomes a problem for some poor guy that has traveled 12 hrs. to a race.

FWIW the GP and Revo packs I tossed last year had no data on the cells unless it was turned in.

[Doby]

lol Howard.
Doby, my Kanadian friend. I understand integrity.
But what about the guy that buys legal batteries with the paper labels that struggle to outlast a fart in a windstorm? Or the guy that removed heat shrink to dry out legal packs that have been wet? There are legitimate reasons why packs may not have the original data on them.

Back to that integrity thing.......

Screw it...easier to switch to gas/nitro.

[TRUCKPULL]

But what about the guy that buys legal batteries with the paper labels that struggle to outlast a fart in a windstorm? Or the guy that removed heat shrink to dry out legal packs that have been wet? There are legitimate reasons why packs may not have the original data on them.

Doug

If you have to re-shrink your packs-- Use clear shrink
Even the packs from China have electro printing on every individual cell, stating the capacity.
This now can be read through the clear shrink.

Larry

[Brushless55]

lol Howard.
Doby, my Kanadian friend. I understand integrity.
But what about the guy that buys legal batteries with the paper labels that struggle to outlast a fart in a windstorm? Or the guy that removed heat shrink to dry out legal packs that have been wet? There are legitimate reasons why packs may not have the original data on them.

I agree, this is a good question ....

[Doug Smock]

lol Howard.
Doby, my Kanadian friend. I understand integrity.
But what about the guy that buys legal batteries with the paper labels that struggle to outlast a fart in a windstorm? Or the guy that removed heat shrink to dry out legal packs that have been wet? There are legitimate reasons why packs may not have the original data on them.

[photohoward1]

Checking Kanadians packs voltages is a waste of time, we're the most honest people on the planet. Southerners though...well that's a whole different ball game....they've always got a extra cell up their sleeves.

How is Canadian voltage checked? Is that USA Voltage or Canadian Voltage? I get so confused with the metric system.

[Doby]

Out of curiosity, what's the procedure for batteries that have had the original labels / heat shrink removed?

Personal integrity.

Of course anyone who thinks a couple of hundred extra Mah capacity is going to win them a race is delusional.

Perhaps the rules need to updated to state that only factory labeled packs can be used.

I have both 5800Mah , 4200Mah and 5000Mah packs that could be used on 2P setups...oh the horror...there's a possibility of over 10000mah capacity. I also have some HV packs (but no HV chargers) EEEKKKKK!!!!!!!!. Guess Terry's going to be busier than a one armed wall-paper hanger at Michigan this year....checking voltages, capacities, labels, underwear color, etc.....

Just another reason NAMBA and IMPBA needs to have a group hug and get their collective *!***!***!***!**z together on a standard set of rules for FE.

[Doug Smock]

I'd hate to think some folks would be turned away for a few extra mah.

That may happen this year. My old 5000s are letting go and are being replaced with 5200s.

Out of curiosity, what's the procedure for batteries that have had the original labels / heat shrink removed?

[TRUCKPULL]

I'm just saying that if some newby, like a Smock or Don H are entering their first race with their P Mono and want to join in on the craziness with their 2, 4S 6000mah packs to run in parallel, could they still be allowed to run if the race waiver allows a bit extra capacity? I'd hate to think some folks would be turned away for a few extra mah. Unless of course its for a formal record of some sort.

John

If it is club race - No Problem

If it is a NAT's or MI Cup size race - NO WAY

To allow one person the extra capacity is a big advantage to that person.
Higher capacity cells give higher voltage under load.

To put it in the race flier, means that everyone else has to buy new packs to compete.
It is easer for that one person to borrow or buy legal packs for the race.

Larry

[Doby]

I know Doug. I knew what you were running. I didn't want to hear any BS later about Smock this or Smock that. I'm sure you already know this but I wasn't trying to catch a single person cheating. I was preventing others from making accusations later. It wouldn't have come from anyone at our race. It would have come from people NOT at our race. The usual sources.

I checked Einstein and PAGS about 86 times. Fireball got a bunch of visits too. I tried to accost everyone at some point. Probably skipped the kids boats.

Checking Kanadians packs voltages is a waste of time, we're the most honest people on the planet. Southerners though...well that's a whole different ball game....they've always got a extra cell up their sleeves.

[Doby]

Doug

Terry, Fred & the MI gang run one of, if not the best and fairest races in North America.

Larry

The're a bunch of bums...Terry needs a calculator to figure out a 4s packs voltage.