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  • drwayne
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • May 2008
    • 2977

    #151
    Originally posted by ray schrauwen View Post
    Yeah, you are right Wayne. I screwed up.

    I have all the stuff to etch pc boards, should have done it in the first place, lazy, tsk tsk...
    Creating your own circuits is an admirable talent, but the tracking would need be 1/16 to support the currents expected here.
    Look at post#12 for an alternative method to what you intend to lay up.
    W
    Wayne Schutte PhdCSE BaSE BaEE. Australian, & damn proud of it YOUTUBE
    @ 36" H&M Maritmo twin1512/1800 6S1P 88mph @ 40" drag hydro#1 twin 5692 12S1P .....always for fun @

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    • millzee
      Ozzie Bloke
      • Nov 2010
      • 1092

      #152
      Hey Doc, how ya been?
      I'm hoping you can reassure me that this wiring will be ok for my 10s set up

      http://www.youtube.com/user/1millzee?feature=mhum
      "Gimmy Toyz for FUN"

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      • viper1
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2012
        • 218

        #153
        Originally posted by millzee View Post
        Hey Doc, how ya been?
        I'm hoping you can reassure me that this wiring will be ok for my 10s set up
        Wisdom is knowing how little we know

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        • drwayne
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • May 2008
          • 2977

          #154
          Hi Danny. long time !
          1) the soldering of join at 2xESC join with the 14AWG cap leads is poor
          2) what capacity the bank & what type the caps ?
          3) I do approve the ESC and plugs on ends those leads

          W
          Wayne Schutte PhdCSE BaSE BaEE. Australian, & damn proud of it YOUTUBE
          @ 36" H&M Maritmo twin1512/1800 6S1P 88mph @ 40" drag hydro#1 twin 5692 12S1P .....always for fun @

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          • millzee
            Ozzie Bloke
            • Nov 2010
            • 1092

            #155
            It's the large Etti cap bank. Should I use thicker wire to the cap bank or is the 14awg enough if I resolder the join with a 400 degree iron and make sure they don't move when cooling?
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            • drwayne
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • May 2008
              • 2977

              #156
              Originally posted by millzee View Post
              It's the large Etti cap bank. Should I use thicker wire to the cap bank or is the 14awg enough if I resolder the join with a 400 degree iron and make sure they don't move when cooling?
              The Etti bank is 50V ?? uf
              Yes, the soldering iron ( or technique ) needs to be better than what was used originally.. I use an Iroda 300W gas pistol grip thing that does a damn fine job.. be careful the heat doesnt travel up the wires into the esc or you'll roast it !
              Although solder is a good conductor, it has limited tolerance to high current flow ( and residual heat build up ) .. more wire to wire contact at that joint is a must .. the 14AWG wires to cap bank suggests it is not capable to feed the quad 8AWG inputs to the esc....

              If outside your comfort zone, mate ... post it over... I'll fix
              cheers.
              DocW
              Wayne Schutte PhdCSE BaSE BaEE. Australian, & damn proud of it YOUTUBE
              @ 36" H&M Maritmo twin1512/1800 6S1P 88mph @ 40" drag hydro#1 twin 5692 12S1P .....always for fun @

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              • ray schrauwen
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Apr 2007
                • 9438

                #157
                Originally posted by drwayne View Post
                2) what capacity the bank & what type the caps ?

                W
                This Etti Cap Bank has a total of 5000 uF ( 5 x 1000uF) They are Rubycon RX30 63V 130*F caps.
                Nortavlag Bulc

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                • millzee
                  Ozzie Bloke
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 1092

                  #158
                  thanks ray, my internet crashed for a bit there
                  http://www.youtube.com/user/1millzee?feature=mhum
                  "Gimmy Toyz for FUN"

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                  • millzee
                    Ozzie Bloke
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 1092

                    #159
                    How's this, I used a 8mm bullet that I squashed a little to fit both the esc wires into and up the cap bank wire to 10awg.

                    http://www.youtube.com/user/1millzee?feature=mhum
                    "Gimmy Toyz for FUN"

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                    • drwayne
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • May 2008
                      • 2977

                      #160
                      -Much better than before.
                      -Novel approach to joining the 2x esc leads
                      -The 8mm female would have accepted the 2xESC leads and the cap lead simultaneously .. ..a bit awkward now for heatshrinking.. that's an observation.
                      - The cable length from 8mmF join to the final male plug looks long.. does it need all that length ?,, shorter leads allow higher current flow ..

                      Looks promising, mate !
                      Wayne Schutte PhdCSE BaSE BaEE. Australian, & damn proud of it YOUTUBE
                      @ 36" H&M Maritmo twin1512/1800 6S1P 88mph @ 40" drag hydro#1 twin 5692 12S1P .....always for fun @

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                      • millzee
                        Ozzie Bloke
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 1092

                        #161
                        Cheers mate. The leads need to be that long to fit where they're needed. I've put it all together and programmed the esc so I now have another boat ready to run that'll have to wait a week or so due to work commitments. (I've been stuck in the office for a couple of days and that's been a great help catching up on unfinished projects)
                        http://www.youtube.com/user/1millzee?feature=mhum
                        "Gimmy Toyz for FUN"

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                        • Steven Vaccaro
                          Administrator
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 8724

                          #162
                          excellent idea on the connector.
                          Steven Vaccaro

                          Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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                          • rickwess
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 777

                            #163
                            This is by far the best method I have seen (courtesy of Doug). I had built a beautiful set of T connectors out of bullets for my 2p setup then had a "V8 moment" when I saw the pic. The gauge of wire wrap is unimportant.....the thinner the better to get a tight wrap. I'm using 22 or 24awg CAT6 wire. It's really just a binder until you solder it.

                            Easy to shrink wrap too.

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                            • tlandauer
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 5660

                              #164
                              Wow, yes, it looks very intelligent! Now for the unintelligent stupid question I have: suppose you still use your "T" connector and "save" one pos. and one neg. for a cap bank, would that work?
                              Too many boats, not enough time...

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                              • rickwess
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2013
                                • 777

                                #165
                                It would work, but it is another connection, which in practice you want to avoid. I think it would be better to just bind another set of wires into that splice for the cap bank.

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