The pirate has taller "freeboards"/sides.Haven't seen the two side by side so I can't comment on the V.I'm considering the Pirate as well for my other 1717.I would add a flood chamber.Still looking at other hulls though because common consesus is that DF's are thin.I tend to agree with that after my one wipe-out I had.
Your MG that started off as a hull
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Hi Macdon, thought you may be interested in this project I am doing, it was a new Genisis 37" hull cut in half from bow to stern and re-moulded to give a 12"width, got rid of the two twin drive wells under the transom and widened and deepened the transom standoff pad to be able mount the hardware easier. A Leopard 4082 2200, 2 x 4s 5000 and T180, all cooling inlets are moulded in to the rear of the ride pads, won't be finishing/running this boat for a couple of months yet so i'm really interested to see how your 37" cat handles.
Regards,
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That is Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet Barry! Nice clean work and I love your hardware! Could you post pics of the inside?Originally posted by BLACKJACK_101 View PostHi Macdon, thought you may be interested in this project I am doing, it was a new Genisis 37" hull cut in half from bow to stern and re-moulded to give a 12"width, got rid of the two twin drive wells under the transom and widened and deepened the transom standoff pad to be able mount the hardware easier. A Leopard 4082 2200, 2 x 4s 5000 and T180, all cooling inlets are moulded in to the rear of the ride pads, won't be finishing/running this boat for a couple of months yet so i'm really interested to see how your 37" cat handles.
Regards,
Barry[ATTACH=CONFIG]70032[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]70033[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]70034[/ATTACH]My Aquacraft SV27's old Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoTm4Btz41Q
MHZ Micro Iceberg, Skunksworks Gen2 Cat twin, Aquacraft SV27, SM29 1515 sold.
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Originally posted by BLACKJACK_101 View PostHi Macdon, thought you may be interested in this project I am doing, it was a new Genisis 37" hull cut in half from bow to stern and re-moulded to give a 12"width, got rid of the two twin drive wells under the transom and widened and deepened the transom standoff pad to be able mount the hardware easier. A Leopard 4082 2200, 2 x 4s 5000 and T180, all cooling inlets are moulded in to the rear of the ride pads, won't be finishing/running this boat for a couple of months yet so i'm really interested to see how your 37" cat handles.
Regards,
Barry[ATTACH=CONFIG]70032[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]70033[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]70034[/ATTACH]
That is certainly awesome - thanks for sharing Barry!
I was kinda hoping you would've run it already so we could get some feedback on its handling hahaha! Have you tried a stock Genesis so you could possibly compare any difference?
If you've read most of this thread, you'll notice we've considered getting a Genesis hull and cutting it straight in the middle like what you've done - so I guess I wasnt the only person with that crazy idea after all! hahaha.
We did however decide to build a cat straight up from scratch, so we're also anxious as to how it will perform in the open waters. I hope you hang out here with us and we could learn from each other :)
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I run my boats in the middle east mainly but I live most of the year in the UK (rotten weather and rough waters), I am leaving the middle east now and won't be back until May/June time; so it looks like your 37" cat will hit the water first, I have never run a standard Genesis, the nearest I have is a MG 4074 2200 4s x 2 T180 which runs great in these flat waters in Dubai although water cooling is a bit of a challenge with the high ocean temperatures.Originally posted by macdon View PostThat is certainly awesome - thanks for sharing Barry!
I was kinda hoping you would've run it already so we could get some feedback on its handling hahaha! Have you tried a stock Genesis so you could possibly compare any difference?
If you've read most of this thread, you'll notice we've considered getting a Genesis hull and cutting it straight in the middle like what you've done - so I guess I wasnt the only person with that crazy idea after all! hahaha.
We did however decide to build a cat straight up from scratch, so we're also anxious as to how it will perform in the open waters. I hope you hang out here with us and we could learn from each other :)
Looking forward to your first runs with your 37, good luck.
Barry
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Have a safe trip Barry and do visit us often here in OSE!Originally posted by BLACKJACK_101 View PostI run my boats in the middle east mainly but I live most of the year in the UK (rotten weather and rough waters), I am leaving the middle east now and won't be back until May/June time; so it looks like your 37" cat will hit the water first, I have never run a standard Genesis, the nearest I have is a MG 4074 2200 4s x 2 T180 which runs great in these flat waters in Dubai although water cooling is a bit of a challenge with the high ocean temperatures.
Looking forward to your first runs with your 37, good luck.
Barry
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Hey guys!
My worker will be finished with a project by the end of this week so he'll go back to working on our 37" Cat by next week.
So Im trying to focus on a mono till then. I was wondering if you could share any inputs regarding these hulls:
39" Mono:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/39-deep-V-mo...#ht_1229wt_950
36" Mono:
Im thinking that the 39" may be a bit too big? Hopefully, I could have something to lean towards to before I focus back on the 37" Cat next week.
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grrrrrrrrrr! Macdon your darn bearings doesn't want to come out! Inrunners are way lot easier!My Aquacraft SV27's old Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoTm4Btz41Q
MHZ Micro Iceberg, Skunksworks Gen2 Cat twin, Aquacraft SV27, SM29 1515 sold.
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Well I like the look of the 39",but I have a 1717.I think HOR are pretty good hulls.Originally posted by macdon View PostHey guys!
My worker will be finished with a project by the end of this week so he'll go back to working on our 37" Cat by next week.
So Im trying to focus on a mono till then. I was wondering if you could share any inputs regarding these hulls:
39" Mono:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/39-deep-V-mo...#ht_1229wt_950
36" Mono:
Im thinking that the 39" may be a bit too big? Hopefully, I could have something to lean towards to before I focus back on the 37" Cat next week.
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Originally posted by BLACKJACK_101 View PostThanks Tagasagwan, The inside is a bit bare at the moment but with the extra width of the hull there is lots of room for the gear.[ATTACH=CONFIG]70035[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]70036[/ATTACH]
WOW!!! You did a great job on that hull!!!! I think a wider genesis would be perfect. I love my genesis but it cant turn at speeds due to the narrow tunnel. Although having a wider tunnel limits your top speed due to liftoff. But i think it would be worth it. You and Macdon both are very good at glass work!!!!Miss Geico CC1515 2200kv T180 2S2S- Twin Genesis with 2 2700kv 2 T180's 4S2P- Stiletto with 2030kv T120 4S1P-DF33 4082 1600kv T180 6S2P- and lots of gassers!
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That is some nice work there Barry.I'll be curious to see how she handles widened out with the tapered sponsons.This has been of some debate over in the mini forum here.Originally posted by BLACKJACK_101 View PostThanks Tagasagwan, The inside is a bit bare at the moment but with the extra width of the hull there is lots of room for the gear.[ATTACH=CONFIG]70035[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]70036[/ATTACH]
Sorry for my brief replies the last couple of days guys but I had this nasty little flu.
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Hey Shawn, we will let you slide this time on the short responses... Just joking! Hope you feel better soon.Miss Geico CC1515 2200kv T180 2S2S- Twin Genesis with 2 2700kv 2 T180's 4S2P- Stiletto with 2030kv T120 4S1P-DF33 4082 1600kv T180 6S2P- and lots of gassers!
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I am using the kintec MG strut bushing upgrade. It seems to work good. You can see the bushing when you get my geico next week or so.Last edited by jasoncyclone; 02-09-2012, 12:35 AM.Miss Geico CC1515 2200kv T180 2S2S- Twin Genesis with 2 2700kv 2 T180's 4S2P- Stiletto with 2030kv T120 4S1P-DF33 4082 1600kv T180 6S2P- and lots of gassers!
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