Fixing the BJ26 Handling Issues

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  • Jesse J
    scale FE enthusiast
    • Aug 2008
    • 7241

    #151
    First of all, I have read the thread several times. There is a lot of information, so forgive me if I missed a detail. I am fully aware of the title, since that is what interested me in this thread. I have participated in the spirit of improving the handling of the BJ and since I almost bought the BJ, but can't afford it, I have to make my own. I don't know why this should solicit sarcastic remarks...

    The handling issues I asked you about were regarding the removing of the second step on rockwerks mods, I have seen your video several times and didn't notice any catching on the inner sponson due to the second step. Since I was not driving it in your video, and I know handling is "felt" through the transmitter, I thought I would ask you your opinion on this "handling of the BJ".

    Personally, I think my interaction in this thread is completely appropriate since modifying an existing hull that is "not the hull to copy" is not too far from making your own that is the same dimensions and trying to learn from people who have been changing it through experience.

    I think it is too cool when people that love to work on FE boats also are willing to share their modifications and are also glad to explain why they changed them. This helps everybody, even those who are trying to design their own boat and avoid poor handling when they are done.
    "Look good doin' it"
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    • rockwerks
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2008
      • 772

      #152
      Originally posted by Jesse J View Post
      First of all, I have read the thread several times. There is a lot of information, so forgive me if I missed a detail. I am fully aware of the title, since that is what interested me in this thread. I have participated in the spirit of improving the handling of the BJ and since I almost bought the BJ, but can't afford it, I have to make my own. I don't know why this should solicit sarcastic remarks...

      The handling issues I asked you about were regarding the removing of the second step on rockwerks mods, I have seen your video several times and didn't notice any catching on the inner sponson due to the second step. Since I was not driving it in your video, and I know handling is "felt" through the transmitter, I thought I would ask you your opinion on this "handling of the BJ".

      Personally, I think my interaction in this thread is completely appropriate since modifying an existing hull that is "not the hull to copy" is not too far from making your own that is the same dimensions and trying to learn from people who have been changing it through experience.

      I think it is too cool when people that love to work on FE boats also are willing to share their modifications and are also glad to explain why they changed them. This helps everybody, even those who are trying to design their own boat and avoid poor handling when they are done.
      Just messin with you a bit

      The sport only gets better with free and active participation and sharing of ideas

      From what Ive read here and elsewhere the steps in the cat hull pretty much have a null effect on speed and do affect cornering as the inner lip is broken instead of continuous. The effect is the same as a mono would be if you where to split up the strakes into short broke lines, not a good thing. On a 1:1 offshore rig where the boat is displacing many tons the steps help lift the boat out of the water. On our small scale we are only lifting several pounds of weight and the effects are not the same. We can push the envelope because of the size of our rigs
      an RC rock crawler lost in a sea of boat parts.........

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      • Jesse J
        scale FE enthusiast
        • Aug 2008
        • 7241

        #153
        Right on, I'm game for messin, just have a knee-jerk reaction to stuffiness

        Have you had a chance to do that rounding on the hull and see what it did on the water? Gotta pic to help me visualize?
        "Look good doin' it"
        See the fleet

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        • rockwerks
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2008
          • 772

          #154
          Originally posted by Jesse J View Post
          Right on, I'm game for messin, just have a knee-jerk reaction to stuffiness

          Have you had a chance to do that rounding on the hull and see what it did on the water? Gotta pic to help me visualize?

          no chance for a week or 2 moving to washington and am packing up things now
          an RC rock crawler lost in a sea of boat parts.........

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          • robin4
            Junior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 2

            #155
            hi

            Ive got a stock BJ 26, running with 2x Zippy-H 11.1v 5000mah 20-30c. Having problems keeping it from flipping over when I try to use the throttle. To much torque basicly. I really don't care that much about the handling while cornering, but my main goal is to get the boat stable enough so its possible to launch without flipping over(loop basicly) and keep it from flipping and barrel rolling while reaching top speed.

            Would like to keep it stock as much as possible.

            Any ideas people?

            Great thread btw, fun reading about so many different ideas and solutions - Very interesting. Keep it up :)

            -Robin-

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            • MAXAMUS
              Senior Member
              • May 2008
              • 200

              #156
              try proping down or moving the CofG further forward make sure your strut is set right

              well thats my guess !!
              Maxamus

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              • Apples1
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2007
                • 406

                #157
                batts as far forward as possible, and drop the strut as low as possible, prop down maybe?
                returning to boats after a big break

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                • robin4
                  Junior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 2

                  #158
                  hey

                  solved the problem i think. I adjusted the tilt a littlebit, and got rid of the battery"holders", and got the CoG much lower, and it worked perfectly at topspeed. worked ok from launch too

                  So Thanx for all the help guys :)

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                  • waynedawg
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 132

                    #159
                    greasing

                    ok i got all the mods in and looks good 1 ques what is the best way to grease the flex shaft i have the grease gun set from offshore thanks

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                    • Apples1
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 406

                      #160
                      Take it out and rub it on, and re-install it!
                      returning to boats after a big break

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                      • shadow9823
                        Junior Member
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 13

                        #161
                        um can some one please tell me if i can upgrade my BJ 26 from one brushless motor to two of them.

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                        • rockwerks
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 772

                          #162
                          Originally posted by shadow9823 View Post
                          um can some one please tell me if i can upgrade my BJ 26 from one brushless motor to two of them.
                          This thread:

                          http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...ighlight=video


                          practical........HHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMM no, cool YES!
                          an RC rock crawler lost in a sea of boat parts.........

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                          • shadow9823
                            Junior Member
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 13

                            #163
                            so the only way i can do that is if the BJ came with two motors and not one...ook cool

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                            • rockwerks
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 772

                              #164
                              Originally posted by shadow9823 View Post
                              so the only way i can do that is if the BJ came with two motors and not one...ook cool
                              no see he added 2 motors and outdrives, it did not come stock that way
                              an RC rock crawler lost in a sea of boat parts.........

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                              • shadow9823
                                Junior Member
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 13

                                #165
                                o ook

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