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  • REDLINE1
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2016
    • 199

    #196
    Originally posted by MADRCER
    Alright guys I have been handicapped in my previous runs with the Veles if you have paid attention to my last few post...Well I FINALLY got the boat to stop pulling to the right! So now I don't have to run the boat trimmed severely to the left anymore and dragging my rudder half sideways and causing me to loose mph. I went out to the lake quickly this afternoon to see if it was fixed and it's GOOD to go! If anyone was wondering it's way faster pulling a straight rudder versus pulling one cocked to the left...lol! Keep in mind this was only supposed to be a "test run" with speed being irrelevant... but I put the GPS' in the boat anyways for kicks and I threw two Gens Ace batteries on the charger that were in storage mode for about 15 minutes (charged them to 4.05v per cell) just for this test and I still got 69mph and 70mph readings!!! and this wasn't even a speed run, nor were the batteries fully charged, nor were these my best packs! After only 3min and 20 seconds into the run the boat hit low voltage just driving the boat around casually. The boat drives SO much better not having to fight it pulling in the opposite direction and did I mention it's significantly faster...lol! Here is a nothing special video of my test and you can clearly see the wind was around 10mph, water not ideal, and I wasn't even trying to run the boat hard. Both GPS' got 69mph and the logger got 70mph. I'm banking on a GOOD run next time out and I bet Miss Geico will be keeping one eye it as well.....

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    So why was it pulling to the left?

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    • REDLINE1
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2016
      • 199

      #197
      Originally posted by MADRCER
      It was actually pulling to the right. Two problems, one was the stuffing tube under the hull had a decent size left hand bow in it and the other issue was a weak servo not holding the rudder very well at higher speeds. So I changed the servo and got my tubing bender ahold of the stuffing tube and bent it back as true as I could get it. With the tube/strut being straight and aligned better that alone fixed 80% of the issue, then the servo fixed it 100%
      Ok makes sense. I had a crooked stuffing tube on my Zelos which I replaced

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      • REDLINE1
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2016
        • 199

        #198
        Originally posted by MADRCER
        The Zelos is a little different because the stuffing tube is all inside the boat and never touches the water when the boat moving like the Veles and V3 cats do. Only the stinger is in the water on the Z.
        Agreed, but the misalignment between the stinger and tube was creating resistance and heat so I replaced it

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        • MADRCER
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2017
          • 761

          #199
          Veles 29 Hits 75mph (121kmh)!!!!

          Ran the boat today and I have to say I believe that I still left some mph on the table... I didn't have the trim knob centered so I had to stop halfway on my first pass to center it then I took off again from the middle of the lake and I only got 75.18mph (121kmh). I had to let out a little early due to the boat getting very close to shallow waters on the other end of the lake. O well I guess there is always the "next run"... By the way I got my goal of 75mph that was set back on 9-8-2017 in post 61 on this thread, so its not all that bad. Thanks to Chris for the awesome prop work! Also thanks to Travis (kfxguy) for stepping up to the plate and helping a fellow out with some Awesome flexshafts! Couldn't have done it with out you two!

          Veles 29 75mph 10-4-17.jpg Veles 29 121km 75.18mph.jpg

          Last edited by MADRCER; 10-04-2017, 08:27 PM.
          TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17

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          • vinnyp
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2017
            • 283

            #200
            Originally posted by MADRCER View Post
            I have already told you where to go run up there...The Gulf of Mexico is rough down south also...Lol!
            Yeah, I know where we discussed. However, the bottom line is that it has been windy here. Doesn't matter where you go, wind is wind. My preferred place can have calm water, IF there is no wind. So, between work and wind it has been difficult to run the boats. It may get a bit easier now that I don't have to worry so much about working around kids in the water, like in the summer.

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            • fweasel
              master of some
              • Jul 2016
              • 4335

              #201
              Originally posted by vinnyp View Post
              It may get a bit easier now that I don't have to worry so much about working around kids in the water, like in the summer.
              Those are buoys! You should be racing that course
              Vac-U-Tug Jr (13mph)

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              • vinnyp
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2017
                • 283

                #202
                Is that what those orange things are, buoys ?? All this time I thought they were water wings!!

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                • fweasel
                  master of some
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 4335

                  #203
                  Originally posted by vinnyp View Post
                  Is that what those orange things are, buoys ?? All this time I thought they were water wings!!
                  inflatable buoys.
                  Vac-U-Tug Jr (13mph)

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                  • MADRCER
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2017
                    • 761

                    #204
                    When I get time to break from 6s testing the Veles I got something for the 4s packs that arrived in the mail.. I hope to be to get high 50's with a good setup and this bad boy! Not to mention Swag is always nice as well...Thanks Chris! I also got my replacement servo yesterday from Horizon and they were nice enough to send me s605 which is way better than the s602 which the Veles comes with for the defective one, so they're still on top of their game as well! I made up a jumper wire to run a single 4s pack, if I can get it stuffed in. I don't like to run these jumpers but I want 4s speed numbers without having to buy new 2s packs that I hardly ever use.

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                    Last edited by MADRCER; 10-17-2017, 08:39 PM.
                    TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17

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                    • MADRCER
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2017
                      • 761

                      #205
                      VELES 29 Fast List thread

                      I posted a Veles "fast list" thread if anyone is interested in sharing their results.


                      https://forums.offshoreelectrics.com...039#post702039
                      Last edited by MADRCER; 10-06-2017, 06:18 PM.
                      TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17

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                      • vinnyp
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2017
                        • 283

                        #206
                        If you look at Marks Fast list, you will see I finally got this boat to make a few laps. It was running bow high and a bit too unstable. I was not able to stick the throttle. After a couple of laps like that, I was thinking to bring it in to make some adjustments. I slowed to start a left turn back to me, when mid way through the turn, it hooked right, then barrel rolled several times. On recovery, I noticed that the steering servo gears stripped out. Not sure whether the gears stripped out on the turn, causing the unusual right hook, or if the barrel rolls broke the servo. In either case, I was done for the day. Ordered an upgraded servo from Horizon. At least I finally got a few laps in with this boat.

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                        • MADRCER
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2017
                          • 761

                          #207
                          Veles 29 hits 57mph on 4s!!

                          I ran the boat today on 4s and got 57mph. More details on the "Veles fast list" thread if anyone is interested. Thanks to Chris for the custom ABC!


                          57mph veles 29 on 4s.jpg veles 57mph.jpg

                          TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17

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                          • vinnyp
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2017
                            • 283

                            #208
                            Nice run , particularly since it was on only 4s. Hope to get to run mine this weekend.

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                            • MADRCER
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2017
                              • 761

                              #209
                              Thanks VP! My Revo packs might grab another mph or two but they might not either because the SMC'S Really shined with this 4s setup, but 59-60mph would be some real good numbers on 4s for a stock boat. I'm really liking the SMC packs. The resistance is 0 and 1 in both packs. Also, I want to give you a big THANKS for the strut adjusting gauge as well! It will work great with the Veles. It's always nice for something to show up unexpected! Thanks bud!

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                              Last edited by MADRCER; 10-13-2017, 11:02 PM.
                              TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17

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                              • vinnyp
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2017
                                • 283

                                #210
                                No problem. Takes a bit of milling to knock that 1/2" block down to .75 mm but if I attempt to mill it from 1/4" the end held in the milling vise tends to flop around. I told you I liked these SMC packs. Cant beat the price either.

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