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  • AMG4ME
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 206

    #1

    Help I Need More Cheap Speed

    Hey All,

    First I would like to say that this site has been absolutly awsome for information. Members are great and everyone seems to love to share good info. I try to buy anything I can off OSE because of it.

    Now comes the question: I need more cheap speed (More Speed without Replacing ESC/Motor)

    What I have: Revolt 30
    Grimm 4s 5000Mah Batteries All the way to the back
    OSE Sharpened and Balanced/Thinned Octura x642
    I have not put in but have the OSE bearing and shaft but I have it here.
    Turn Fins up and angled forward
    I have not touched anything else... ie trim tabs, strut
    Ran 37.40 with Iphone GPS in the boat... lol (Compared to numbers I see around the site this seems really slow)

    This is my first boat and I am a newbie for boats... I have a few Helicopters (Genius CP, MSR, Nine Eagles) but not a lot of that stuff transfers well.

    Any recomendations? Pictures are help if they are handy to post.
    Last edited by AMG4ME; 08-14-2013, 10:28 AM.
    Revolt 30 60kms/h, Mystic 29 77.1 kms/h, UL 1 Superior
    X blaze - still building
    Impulse 17 - not worth GPS. Lol (rescue boat)
  • Fluid
    Fast and Furious
    • Apr 2007
    • 8103

    #2
    Two things will get you more "cheap" speed. Set the hull up to run loose, on the back part of the hull. This reduces drag and gives free speed - but will make the boat more liable to blow over. Second is another prop. While yours may work okay, club members have gotten into the mid 40s with an m445.

    All the power in an FE boat is in the packs, and better packs mean more speed. Yours may be fine, or not. You can scuff the hull bottom in contact with the water to reduce drag a big more. Next it's $$$.


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    • AMG4ME
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2013
      • 206

      #3
      Hey Fluid thanks... can you recomend a good pack and I am not sure about how to set up the boat to run loose but maybe I will take another good look at the rest of the topics to get some hints.

      Mike.... I have read a couple of your other posts that mentioned that and I am wondering if that is my biggest culprit right now. I am going to go through the manual again and try to see if that helps. Its funny too cause when I read that post a couple of weeks ago it really set something off in my mind but I went ahead and ignored it and now that you re emphasized it I think I am going to try that first.

      I might get it out in the harbour tomorrow night and see if I can rebind and set up my txt again and try to play with the trim tabs to maybe get the bow up a bit more to have less boat in the water. I hope this is the correct idea. Again thanks for all the help I really want to beat my friends Impulse 31 but right now he has me good.
      Revolt 30 60kms/h, Mystic 29 77.1 kms/h, UL 1 Superior
      X blaze - still building
      Impulse 17 - not worth GPS. Lol (rescue boat)

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      • AMG4ME
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2013
        • 206

        #4
        Ok it seems like i am binding my txt correctly but I may have the settings wrong... I have two questions:

        1. Once you have binded the txt to the reciver do you turn the throttle trim up after or leave it at the same point?

        2. Can anyone take a picture of thier txt of the trim and throttle and (N-R) settings as they are when they bind it so that I can set it up the same way. I know this is a pain but after your post Mike I really believe that my lack of speed is comming from the way I am setting up the txt. Although if I am wrong I am going to be frustrated ... lol.
        Revolt 30 60kms/h, Mystic 29 77.1 kms/h, UL 1 Superior
        X blaze - still building
        Impulse 17 - not worth GPS. Lol (rescue boat)

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        • Cinnabun
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2013
          • 428

          #5
          Whats this TX/RX setup stuff I'm reading about?

          I'm not running the tactic, I'm running a Spektrum setup. Is this something I need to worry about? My revolt did 38mph with a single 4s pack and a 440/3, fins all the way up and haven't touched the trim tabs or strut. I saw 37.5-38.5 comment and was wondering if I may be falling into this issue because no matter what prop I use it does 38ish mph.

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          • AMG4ME
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2013
            • 206

            #6
            Originally posted by Mike Caruso
            Its easy Just as the directions say point the (throttle) trim at 2 o'clock and leave it alone....... I made that goof too.
            My radio won't bind until its down to about 4-5 o'clock... I think that is why I am so confused. It won't beep at 2 o'clock then I turn it down to about 4-5 and it will beep. What does the (N-R) switch... does that effect anything? Does it need to be in one or the other? Doesn't say much about that in boat manual and it doesn't really go to much detail in the radio manual.

            I feel like i must be doing something wrong because if you can hit 52 MPH with a similar set up and I can't seem to hit 40MPH that seems like a big difference. Thats close to a 38% difference in speed.
            Revolt 30 60kms/h, Mystic 29 77.1 kms/h, UL 1 Superior
            X blaze - still building
            Impulse 17 - not worth GPS. Lol (rescue boat)

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            • fox88gt
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2013
              • 103

              #7
              You will see nice gains in speed by adjusting the strut upwards. The Revolt is a V hull so its hard to go "too far" trimming up unless you are running into a strong headwind (yep, i blew mine over running too much trim into the wind). Just like a real boat, the drive needs to be trimmed up to carry the bow up and out of the water, reducing the wetted surface on the hull. Air offers much less resistance than water, so the less area of the hull dragging through the water, the faster the boat will go. Have fun! You're in the right place!

              Jeff
              Aquacraft Revolt 30, Aquacraft Lucas Oil Cat
              Dumas 44' Coast Guard MLB (undergoing restoration)
              Dumas 55" Wellcraft Scarab 38KV (NIB kit)

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              • AMG4ME
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2013
                • 206

                #8
                Thanks Fox I might try putting up the strut a hair and maybe adjusting the trim tabs up some more.

                Mike I just did the speed calculator and apparently I am not that far off at 38... it calculated me at 40 mph with my prop. I am not sure what you did to achieve your speeds but I sure would like a small chunck more so I can run with my buddy's impulse 31. Stock he GPS's his at 47MPH.
                Revolt 30 60kms/h, Mystic 29 77.1 kms/h, UL 1 Superior
                X blaze - still building
                Impulse 17 - not worth GPS. Lol (rescue boat)

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                • Phoebe
                  Member
                  • Jul 2013
                  • 43

                  #9
                  Suggest you guys give the stock Impulse Prop on your Revolts. I get 7 or 8 minutes run time, flat out, at 46 mph.

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                  • AMG4ME
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 206

                    #10
                    Tryed the boat in the harbour last night... its not the txt... the boat is slow.... bummer. Could have sworn I would have been able to get a bit more than what I did. Gonna try raising the strut a hair and the tabs and see what happens.
                    Revolt 30 60kms/h, Mystic 29 77.1 kms/h, UL 1 Superior
                    X blaze - still building
                    Impulse 17 - not worth GPS. Lol (rescue boat)

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                    • chrispycontrol
                      cookie monster
                      • May 2013
                      • 47

                      #11
                      I raised my strut maybe 1-2mm and I noticed a nice jump in speed.
                      And I have everything sharpened to kitchen knife status
                      gps last night 43.6 with stock prop.
                      gens ace 2s 5000mah 40c x2

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                      • AMG4ME
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 206

                        #12
                        Wow really... i am getting really frustrated now... I think I must have the slowest boat out there...
                        Revolt 30 60kms/h, Mystic 29 77.1 kms/h, UL 1 Superior
                        X blaze - still building
                        Impulse 17 - not worth GPS. Lol (rescue boat)

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                        • Bduncan
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 296

                          #13
                          Try ose 47 mm carbon prop trimmed all the way up. Run dual watercooling and try ahort runs

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                          • skeeler
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 208

                            #14
                            Stupid newbie question: When adjusting the strut, it seems like you have to bend the stuffing tube. Is that correct? Is there a risk of fatiguing the tube and having it fail on you?

                            Thanks.
                            Revolt 30, River Jet, Southampton Tug, Outcast 6S BLX, 8ight-E, Ten-SCBE, 22 2.0.
                            '09 Miata.
                            Ibanez basses and guitars. Mapex drums, Zildjian cymbals.

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                            • skeeler
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 208

                              #15
                              Stupid newbie question: When adjusting the strut, it seems like you have to bend the stuffing tube. Is that correct? Is there a risk of fatiguing the tube and having it fail on you?

                              Thanks.
                              Revolt 30, River Jet, Southampton Tug, Outcast 6S BLX, 8ight-E, Ten-SCBE, 22 2.0.
                              '09 Miata.
                              Ibanez basses and guitars. Mapex drums, Zildjian cymbals.

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