x445 cut down to 41?

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  • jkr
    FE Addiction
    • Aug 2010
    • 568

    #1

    x445 cut down to 41?

    Is there any way to detertmine the pitch of a prop?
    I have a used x445 and i cut down to 41.
    How much will be the pitch?
  • dasboata
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    • Dec 2010
    • 3152

    #2
    stock pitch 2.478 but the pitch ratio goes up

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    • jkr
      FE Addiction
      • Aug 2010
      • 568

      #3
      Originally posted by dasboata View Post
      stock pitch 2.478 but the pitch ratio goes up
      Goes up like 1.5x41-1.6x41...?

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      • martin
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        • Aug 2010
        • 2869

        #4
        As said the pitch remains the same as your only reducing the diameter & not changing the angle of the blades, re ratio it would go from 1.4 x 45 to around 1.53 x 41.

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        • jkr
          FE Addiction
          • Aug 2010
          • 568

          #5
          So.
          Now the prop is 1,4x41 correct?
          If i wanted the pitch from the 45, i had to change the pitch to 1,53.Correct?

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          • dasboata
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            • Dec 2010
            • 3152

            #6
            READ ! Don't worry about it put it on the boat !

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            • jkr
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              • Aug 2010
              • 568

              #7
              Originally posted by dasboata View Post
              READ ! Don't worry about it put it on the boat !
              Hehe.
              That's i'm going to do!

              What is ''pitch ratio''?

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              • Chilli
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                • Jan 2008
                • 3067

                #8
                The ratio between prop diameter and pitch.

                For the 445:
                Diameter: 1.77" x 1.4 pitch ratio = 2.478" of pitch

                Now take the 2.479 (since pitch remains the same) and devide by 1.614"(41mm) and you come up with a new ratio of 1.535 (assuming I did my math correctly)



                So Chris. Any potential problems with decreasing a props diameter significantly?? I've been told prop walk could be a problem with some props??
                Mike Chirillo
                www.capitolrcmodelboats.com

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                • dasboata
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                  • Dec 2010
                  • 3152

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Chilli View Post
                  The ratio between prop diameter and pitch.

                  For the 445:
                  Diameter: 1.77" x 1.4 pitch ratio = 2.478" of pitch

                  Now take the 2.479 (since pitch remains the same) and devide by 1.614"(41mm) and you come up with a new ratio of 1.535 (assuming I did my math correctly)



                  So Chris. Any potential problems with decreasing a props diameter significantly?? I've been told prop walk could be a problem with some props??
                  Most likely you would get more lift because you change the shape of the prop I doubt prop walk would be any different I would not go any higher then 1.7 Pitch ratio

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                  • dasboata
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                    • Dec 2010
                    • 3152

                    #10
                    Originally posted by jkr View Post
                    Hehe.
                    That's i'm going to do!

                    What is ''pitch ratio''?
                    LOL I knew you had no clue anyway JHF

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                    • jkr
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                      • Aug 2010
                      • 568

                      #11
                      Originally posted by dasboata View Post
                      LOL I knew you had no clue anyway JHF
                      Yes.
                      It's my first customized prop.In general i ballance them and make them razor sharp.

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                      • dasboata
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                        • Dec 2010
                        • 3152

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jkr View Post
                        Yes.
                        It's my first customized prop.In general i ballance them and make them razor sharp.
                        Just busting chops,,,, everyone starts somewhere Octura's and props are pretty toxic so wear a mask and some safety clothing !!

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                        • jkr
                          FE Addiction
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 568

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Mike Caruso
                          When working on props and belt sanding make sure to use the shop vacuum conected to the sander to suck the dust away from you. I wash my hands often also when doing detail prop work. Hey just like anything else........ light fuse and get away fast Ha.
                          I always use protection hehe.
                          I have to buy a belt sander cause i spend to many hours on a prop.

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                          • TheShaughnessy
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                            • Mar 2011
                            • 1419

                            #14
                            I thought our (rc boat) props were progressive pitch not fixed pitch. I also thought this is why detounging a prop is advantageous to high end speed. It was my understanding the tounge area has the lowest pitch and becomes a limiting factor for top speed. I guess that doesn't mean the pitch will change in the middle of the blade, but what about at the outer edge?
                            Also why would you reduce a 47 mm prop to 41 when you can get an x442?

                            I just picked up an x447 and was thinking about spooning the tips and cupping them to really push a p-ltd motor, will probably end up back cutting also, but i'm gonna run eagletree on it stock to get some baseline numbers before i start any work. Darin Jordan has me convinced that higher rpm is not the absolute answer in going faster. I'm thinking an 1800 kv proboat motor with a slightly larger prop can be competitive with the AQ 2030 motor spinning a smaller prop. I know some people running an m445 on the 2030 motor so i figure i can get away with an x447 on an 1800 kv motor if i do a little work to it. Races are won and lost in the corners just as much as the straights and it is my opinion that a larger prop should be able to carry more speed in the corner and accelerate harder out of one as well. I haven't done any real world testing on this theory so at this time it is simply that, theory and speculation. Any thoughts on this prop guys?

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                            • jkr
                              FE Addiction
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 568

                              #15
                              Originally posted by TheShaughnessy View Post
                              Also why would you reduce a 47 mm prop to 41 when you can get an x442?
                              My 45 was bend on the tips (not cupped).
                              So i decide to cut down at 41 and i had no time to wait for other prop.

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