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  • rickwess
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 777

    #61
    Originally posted by Fella1340 View Post
    I bought from pre drilled circuit board from circuit city to make mounting the caps easy. I am using the same series parallel setup you are. The only stuff I could get had trace on one side, a quick trip on the belt sander eliminated that. With a little trimming they will be perfect to hold the caps to connect directly to the wire. Some heat shrink to finish it off. I can do a mock up and take a couple pictures if you like.
    Sayal has the circuit board without traces.

    I've built a few a these now. This time I put some 1/8" plywood at the base before I covered it in heat shrink. This should make it easier velco to the hull.

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    • M3Man03
      Junior Member
      • May 2014
      • 25

      #62
      I use this stuff instead of any pad:

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      http://www.amazon.com/Arctic-Alumina...=thermal+epoxy

      Then you don't need to find any way of securing it. The thinner the better for heat transfer.

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      • rickwess
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2013
        • 777

        #63
        Originally posted by M3Man03 View Post
        I use this stuff instead of any pad:

        http://www.amazon.com/Arctic-Alumina...=thermal+epoxy

        Then you don't need to find any way of securing it. The thinner the better for heat transfer.
        That would be better for a CPU, but the application here is much different. Take a look at the pic of the ESC and tell me how the paste would work.

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        • M3Man03
          Junior Member
          • May 2014
          • 25

          #64
          I actually just re-did mine and think I found a perfect solution.

          I took 1/2" aluminum angle, cut 2 pieces to the length of the MOSFETs, applied thermal epoxy to them and the cooling brass tube so they were facing down. 1 side of the angle touched the MOSFETs and one side attached to the brass cooling tube.

          Then I put the original aluminum plate across both of the sides, epoxied to it.

          I should have taken some pictures during, but I didn't. Turns out to a REAL nice package and gives cooling to the other side of the MOSFETs as well rather than just the plate to equalize the temperature.

          Here's 2 pics of the finished product. The black stuff is liquid electrical tape for waterproofing.

          Swordfish.jpg
          Swordfish2.jpg

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          • ray schrauwen
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Apr 2007
            • 9438

            #65
            Nice Job!

            Originally posted by rickwess View Post
            Sayal has the circuit board without traces.

            I've built a few a these now. This time I put some 1/8" plywood at the base before I covered it in heat shrink. This should make it easier velco to the hull.

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            Nortavlag Bulc

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            • rickwess
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2013
              • 777

              #66
              Originally posted by ray schrauwen View Post
              Nice Job!
              Thanks Ray.



              Originally posted by M3Man03 View Post
              I actually just re-did mine and think I found a perfect solution.

              I took 1/2" aluminum angle, cut 2 pieces to the length of the MOSFETs, applied thermal epoxy to them and the cooling brass tube so they were facing down. 1 side of the angle touched the MOSFETs and one side attached to the brass cooling tube.

              Then I put the original aluminum plate across both of the sides, epoxied to it.

              I should have taken some pictures during, but I didn't. Turns out to a REAL nice package and gives cooling to the other side of the MOSFETs as well rather than just the plate to equalize the temperature.
              I like it. I was wondering how to avoid the motor wire solders and the two pieces of angle do that. I already have the 1/2" x 1/2" x 1/16" thick aluminum angle and just ordered the thermal adhesive.

              I'm sure my heat issue was prop related, but since I had the ESC open anyway, it might as well put it back together better than it was originally. I'll post pics of the steps, but for now it's off to Orlando for a conference.
              Last edited by rickwess; 06-07-2014, 11:42 AM.

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              • srislash
                Not there yet
                • Mar 2011
                • 7651

                #67
                Originally posted by rickwess View Post
                Thanks Ray.





                I like it. I was wondering how to avoid the motor wire solders and the two pieces of angle do that. I already have the 1/2" x 1/2" x 1/16" thick aluminum angle and just ordered the thermal adhesive.

                I'm sure my heat issue was prop related, but since I had the ESC open anyway, it might as well put it back together better than it was originally. I'll post picks of the steps, but for now it's off to Orlando for a conference.
                Nothing wrong with overbuilding. You guys have me thinking.

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                • ray schrauwen
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9438

                  #68
                  Where di you buy the thermal epoxy from? Canada or USA?


                  Originally posted by rickwess View Post
                  Thanks Ray.





                  I like it. I was wondering how to avoid the motor wire solders and the two pieces of angle do that. I already have the 1/2" x 1/2" x 1/16" thick aluminum angle and just ordered the thermal adhesive.

                  I'm sure my heat issue was prop related, but since I had the ESC open anyway, it might as well put it back together better than it was originally. I'll post pics of the steps, but for now it's off to Orlando for a conference.
                  Nortavlag Bulc

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                  • ray schrauwen
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9438

                    #69
                    Did you keep the original cooling tubes too or did you remove them or not use them?
                    Hard to tell from pictures.

                    Originally posted by M3Man03 View Post
                    I actually just re-did mine and think I found a perfect solution.

                    I took 1/2" aluminum angle, cut 2 pieces to the length of the MOSFETs, applied thermal epoxy to them and the cooling brass tube so they were facing down. 1 side of the angle touched the MOSFETs and one side attached to the brass cooling tube.

                    Then I put the original aluminum plate across both of the sides, epoxied to it.

                    I should have taken some pictures during, but I didn't. Turns out to a REAL nice package and gives cooling to the other side of the MOSFETs as well rather than just the plate to equalize the temperature.

                    Here's 2 pics of the finished product. The black stuff is liquid electrical tape for waterproofing.

                    [ATTACH=CONFIG]116313[/ATTACH]
                    [ATTACH=CONFIG]116314[/ATTACH]
                    Nortavlag Bulc

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                    • oscarel
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 2135

                      #70
                      Originally posted by M3Man03 View Post
                      I actually just re-did mine and think I found a perfect solution.

                      I took 1/2" aluminum angle, cut 2 pieces to the length of the MOSFETs, applied thermal epoxy to them and the cooling brass tube so they were facing down. 1 side of the angle touched the MOSFETs and one side attached to the brass cooling tube.

                      Then I put the original aluminum plate across both of the sides, epoxied to it.

                      I should have taken some pictures during, but I didn't. Turns out to a REAL nice package and gives cooling to the other side of the MOSFETs as well rather than just the plate to equalize the temperature.

                      Here's 2 pics of the finished product. The black stuff is liquid electrical tape for waterproofing.

                      [ATTACH=CONFIG]116313[/ATTACH]
                      [ATTACH=CONFIG]116314[/ATTACH]
                      I have 2 castle air controllers I just did this with. One was done with aluminum and the other with copper. Good results with the aluminum and will test the copper this week. Per this chart copper has twice the thermal transfer ability. ONLINEMETALS has good prices and was local and thermal epoxy http://www.ebay.com/itm/221378467457...84.m1439.l2649

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                      • rickwess
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 777

                        #71
                        Originally posted by ray schrauwen View Post
                        Where di you buy the thermal epoxy from? Canada or USA?
                        Canada
                        http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...-013-_-Product

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                        • rickwess
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 777

                          #72
                          Originally posted by ray schrauwen View Post
                          Did y0u keep the original cooling tubes too or did you remove them or not use them?
                          Hard to tell from pictures.
                          Hi Ray. I took some pics before I left for the conference. I don't have the adhesive yet, but this is how it will look.

                          I used Plasti-Dip to insulate the exposed battery and motor wire solder joints. Then I did a slight grind on the cooling tubes to get a flat spot. The tubes are shaped like a hex on the outside and a corner was where the angle would attached to.

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                          The angles go on first then the original plate on top of those.
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                          • ray schrauwen
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 9438

                            #73
                            Awesome, thanks!
                            Nortavlag Bulc

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                            • ray schrauwen
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 9438

                              #74
                              I used to be able to get plasti-dip at Canadian Tire but, a search came up almost blank..? My old clear stuff is coagulating.
                              Nortavlag Bulc

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                              • rickwess
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2013
                                • 777

                                #75
                                Originally posted by ray schrauwen View Post
                                I used to be able to get plasti-dip at Canadian Tire but, a search came up almost blank..? My old clear stuff is coagulating.
                                You can buy Plasti-Dip at Home Hardware. Also, most paint stores carry Xylene which can be used to thin out the out stuff that is turning into gel.

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