Using a Castle ICE Aircraft Controller in FE boats

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  • rearwheelin
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Oct 2008
    • 1941

    #106
    Originally posted by TRUCKPULL View Post
    Randy

    I was talking about large CAT's in my statement.
    The outside motor will load up in a turn at high speed.

    Larry
    On the my quad drive if I did a bunch of right hand turns at end of run the voltages on my 4 batteries would always read lower starting from the right side of the boat and go up in volts as I went threw each separate system , the battery driving the prop that found itself on the outside of the turn the most would always read higher voltage. That’s why I say the inside was loaded because the prop/system running inside of the turn always consumed more power. That’s my understanding of loading, kind of like a positive differential the inside seems to over torque and slip and the outside tire wants to be pulled threw the turn. sorry if I’m not getting it !

    Randy
    "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction."
    --Albert Einstein

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    • TRUCKPULL
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Apr 2007
      • 2971

      #107
      Randy
      Maybe in your Quad drive.
      I am talking about a large light Twin Cat for "Q" Racing.
      In a turn at high speed (over 70MPH) The hull tilts to the outside ( opposite of a Mono) therefore loading the outside prop more.

      This is why I always run my setups so that both motors see both batteries, This way toward the end of a race, the inside motor does not have more battery causing the boat to want to turn left when the steering is center.

      Also for racing, I recommend running your props outbound NOT in bound.

      When Outbound - when the outside motor loads up.(deeper in the water) the torque of that loaded motor will try and bring the hull back to flat running.


      Larry
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      • rearwheelin
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Oct 2008
        • 1941

        #108
        Originally posted by TRUCKPULL View Post
        Randy
        Maybe in your Quad drive.
        I am talking about a large light Twin Cat for "Q" Racing.
        In a turn at high speed (over 70MPH) The hull tilts to the outside ( opposite of a Mono) therefore loading the outside prop more.

        This is why I always run my setups so that both motors see both batteries, This way toward the end of a race, the inside motor does not have more battery causing the boat to want to turn left when the steering is center.

        Also for racing, I recommend running your props outbound NOT in bound.

        When Outbound - when the outside motor loads up.(deeper in the water) the torque of that loaded motor will try and bring the hull back to flat running.


        Larry
        That makes sense, thank you Larry .
        "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction."
        --Albert Einstein

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        • rearwheelin
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Oct 2008
          • 1941

          #109
          Ordered the Mamba XLX today, I’m going to leave it factory with the fan and going to add water cool to the factory heat sink housing, I’ll make a couple water cooling plates that go on the side probably attach them with thermally conductive Yamabond gasket maker or might even just JB to the side. Price point was better with this esc vs the air controller and will work out of the box with my old DX3S radios. Going to use the IOS Bluetooth programming implement also . Castle said they are working on the telemetry program for iOS still but that’s coming
          "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction."
          --Albert Einstein

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          • HTVboats
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2011
            • 802

            #110
            I was looking over this thread as I am about to convert a couple Castles and liked the extrusion idea but shipping on an $8 piece of Alum is $45. Anyway getting some round tube at my hardware store I found some rectangular stock that cutting one side off slips right over the buss bars. I can solder cooling tubes easily and fasten them with Artic Silver.
            Mic
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            Mic Halbrehder
            IMPBA 8656
            NAMBA 1414

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            • racerr73
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2007
              • 133

              #111
              Hi,
              When programming a phoenix ice 200 with castle pc link cable after water cooling it for boat use , can you tell me what settings should be used for "Vehicle Type", "Throttle Type" and "Throttle Response" please.

              Vehicle Type options are: Airplane, Helicopter, Control Line, Multi Rotor, External Governor
              Throttle Type options are: Fixed Endpoints, Auto Calculated Endpoints
              Throttle Response options are: Low (2), Medium (5), High (8), Custom.

              Thanks
              Trev

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              • Fluid
                Fast and Furious
                • Apr 2007
                • 7990

                #112
                I used Airplane, Auto Endpoints, and Medium.
                ERROR 403 - This is not the page you are looking for

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                • RaceMechaniX
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 2825

                  #113
                  Trev, what type of radio do you have?
                  Settings on the Castle ICE or Edge controllers: Airplane, fixed, low

                  I use Futaba pistol grip radios with the following settings:

                  4PK: Throttle channel reversed, throttle split 70/30, sub trim back 100, main trim back 30.
                  4PX: Throttle channel reversed, throttle split 100/0

                  -Tyler
                  Tyler Garrard
                  NAMBA 639/IMPBA 20525
                  T-Hydro @ 142.94mph former WR

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                  • racerr73
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 133

                    #114
                    Fluid and Tyler,
                    Thank you both for your replies.

                    Tyler, I am using a Futuba 3pmx wheel radio. Any info on trim / sub trim numbers for this radio by chance?

                    Thanks
                    Trev

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                    • RaceMechaniX
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 2825

                      #115
                      Does that radio have a 70/30 throttle split option? if no, you may need to find a PISTIX adapter.
                      You can try all your subtrim and maintrim back 100% and see of the ESC will arm.
                      Tyler Garrard
                      NAMBA 639/IMPBA 20525
                      T-Hydro @ 142.94mph former WR

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                      • HTVboats
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 802

                        #116
                        https://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pr...rod=msw-pistix
                        Simple solution for Pistol TX works like a charm no special settings needed.
                        Mic

                        Mic Halbrehder
                        IMPBA 8656
                        NAMBA 1414

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