Captain just ship and can't be saved?

[RCprince]

SOMALIA: Getting tough on foreign vessels to save local fishermen : http://www.irinnews.org/Report.aspx?ReportId=83755

The Somalians have a right to defend themselves and if being pirates is one, so be it. If any foreign vessel was to be found 12 miles with in U.S. water habitually, That would only be the tip of the ice berg a** whipping. Always 2 sides to a story, and America media tends to tell the sides that favors their agenda: Mis-Information.

[RCprince]

Exploration rights in Somalia for Chinese oil giant CNOOC http://www.oilmarketer.co.uk/2007/07...l-giant-cnooc/


White House Insider "We need a reason for an invasion"

[RCprince]

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gVV_gQDsp1m8v7nPcumVc5McYV-Q

UN envoy decries illegal fishing, waste dumping off Somalia

Jul 25, 2008

UNITED NATIONS (AFP) — The UN special envoy for Somalia on Friday sounded the alarm about rampant illegal fishing and the dumping of toxic waste off the coast of the lawless African nation.

"Because there is no (effective) government, there is so much irregular fishing from European and Asian countries," Ahmedou Ould Abdallah told reporters.

He said he had asked several international non-governmental organizations, including Global Witness, which works to break the links between natural resource exploitation, conflict, corruption, and human rights abuses worldwide, "to trace this illegal fishing, illegal dumping of waste."

"It is a disaster off the Somali coast, a disaster (for) the Somali environment, the Somali population," he added.

Ould Abdallah said the phenomenon helps fuel the endless civil war in Somalia as the illegal fishermen are paying corrupt Somali ministers or warlords for protection or to secure fake licenses.

East African waters, particularly off Somalia, have huge numbers of commercial fish species, including the prized yellowfin tuna.

Foreign trawlers reportedly use prohibited fishing equipment, including nets with very small mesh sizes and sophisticated underwater lighting systems, to lure fish to their traps.

"I am convinced there is dumping of solid waste, chemicals and probably nuclear (waste).... There is no government (control) and there are few people with high moral ground," Ould Abdallah added.

Allegations of waste dumping off Somalia by European companies have been heard for years, according to Somalia watchers. The problem was highlighted in the wake of the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami when broken hazardous waste containers washed up on Somali shores.

But world attention has recently focused on piracy off Somalia, which has taken epidemic proportions since the country sank into chaos after warlords ousted the late president Mohamed Siad Barre in 1991.

Somalia's coastal waters are now considered to be among the most dangerous in the world, with more than 25 ships seized by pirates there last year despite US navy patrols, according to the International Maritime Bureau.

Some Somali pirates have reportedly claimed to be acting as "coastguards" protecting their waters from illegal fishing and dumping of toxic waste.

Ould Abdallah cited the case of a Spanish trawler captured by pirates while illegally fishing for tuna off Somalia in April.

He said payment of a ransom for the release of the crew "was done in a very sophisticated manner" with the pirates arranging by phone "to be paid in Macau."

The Spanish government said in late April that it paid no ransom to secure the release of the crew of the Playa de Bakio after six days of captivity. But Andrew Mwangura of the Kenya chapter of the Seafarers Assistance Program then said a ransom of 1.2 million dollars (768,000 euros) was paid.

On Friday, Estonia urged the European Union to take stronger action against Somali pirates attacking cargo ships bound for Europe, after an Estonian sailor was held hostage for 41 days.

On Sunday pirates seized a 52,000-tonne Japanese vessel and its 21 crew members off the Somali coast.

[domwilson]

I typically try to stay out of these discussions. What we are experiencing now is very similar to this....

[RCprince]

I know many people who reside in central and east afrika and there is nothing yellow about what going on.

[AndyKunz]

William Cooper "listen to everything, read everything, and believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research!"

Great idea. Let's practice it.

HINT: Google is not research. Nor is Wikipedia. Nor CNN, Fox, PBS, etc.

When you come back from Africa, we'll listen to you more.

Andy

[RCprince]

No disagreement there

[domwilson]

I know many people who reside in central and east afrika and there is nothing yellow about what going on.

I think you misunderstood my post. I was referring to the mainstream U.S. Media. They currently seem to put a spin on the "News" that we currently receive. We used to call this "Editorials" when a particular journalist had a opinion. What ever happened to "fair, unbiased, reporting?"

[Doby]

And yet there has still not been a demand by them for this to stop??????

Only $$$ is all they want, who is in the "wonderland"???

Your arguement did not answer the question at all.

[RCprince]

I think you misunderstood my post. I was referring to the mainstream U.S. Media. They currently seem to put a spin on the "News" that we currently receive. We used to call this "Editorials" when a particular journalist had a opinion. What ever happened to "fair, unbiased, reporting?"

I stand corrected in my misunderstanding of your post, clarified. In the past 20 plus years I've learned that the media is the fourth branch of the Government: specializing in half truths and misinformation.

Peter Finch, RIP... He portrayed it best in The Network http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTN3s...eature=related

[domwilson]

I stand corrected in my misunderstanding of your post, clarified. In the past 20 plus years I've learned that the media is the forth branch of the Government: specializing in half truths and misinformation.

Peter Finch, RIP... He portrayed it best in The Network http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTN3s...eature=related

Bring back Walter Cronkite!!

[Bill-SOCAL]

If you can get it try watching BBC World News or some other International news outlet. What a difference. Actual news with no apparent bias.

Hard for Americans to swallow however since we are more comfortable when we are told what to think. Makes it easier to keep track of the latest NASCAR standings or the stats for our favorite teams.

[Chilli]

[domwilson]

If you can get it try watching BBC World News or some other International news outlet. What a difference. Actual news with no apparent bias.

Hard for Americans to swallow however since we are more comfortable when we are told what to think. Makes it easier to keep track of the latest NASCAR standings or the stats for our favorite teams.

[RCprince]

I got some danish News for you guys with subtitles, check this one broadcast. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_tf2...layer_embedded