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  • Rumdog
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    • Mar 2009
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    #16
    Thank you for you realistic answer rockwerks.

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    • calcagno45
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      • Mar 2008
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      #17
      Originally posted by Rumdog View Post
      Actually, thats the best thing that my tax dollars can do in my eyes. Help the less fortunate. How exactly do rapists and drug dealers fit in to this?
      Ride in your local ghetto or slums and see where those useful welfare checks are being spent. I guess buy booze with Food Stamps is approved in your eyes. Sure some do spend the money appropriately and for the betterment of themselves and their families. But far too many use this as a crutch for their habits and other inappropriate things.

      But I'm guessing that a person who is less fortunate and receives government assistance can drive a Cadillac, otherwise known as a high prices automobile, and you see that fit. I see proof in my city everywhere.
      My prop hasn't been wet in a while.

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      • Rumdog
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        #18
        Can you buy booze with food stamps? Can you buy a Cadillac with food stamps? Do you believe the country should do away with welfare? I still am not sure how I am funding rapists and drug dealers...

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        • calcagno45
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          #19
          Originally posted by domwilson View Post
          Cory,
          Do you think this is fair?


          There are some very wealthy individuals who work hard for their money.
          There are some very poor ditch diggers who work equally as hard. But just as there are poor people who are lazy, there are some rich that are equally lazy.
          I agree with whats stated.

          So because someone's father worked hard and got wealthy, and passed his wealth down to future families resulting in the lazy as quoted, the government should take part of his wealth and give it to those that don't have it.

          Or should someone that works a base paying job for a honest living should be supplemented to make him equal with what we classify as the rich? Where is the free market in this? Where is the drive to do better? That is like giving 7th place a trophy. Or saying "hey, you tried hard but didn't win, so here's the a million dollar prize also." When this happens, the entire society will be driven by laziness and dependency. People will become complacent in their lives because they know someone will help them out. How is that fair?
          My prop hasn't been wet in a while.

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          • calcagno45
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            #20
            Originally posted by Rumdog View Post
            Can you buy booze with food stamps? Can you buy a Cadillac with food stamps? Do you believe the country should do away with welfare? I still am not sure how I am funding rapists and drug dealers...

            Have you know knowledge of economics? Welfare = free money. Free money in the wrong hands gets spent on non-necessities like crack and weed, or Cadillacs. Free money has thus funding drug dealing.

            C'mon, you're a realists. You know what really happens in the world. Surely you've heard of drug dealing on the streets before.
            My prop hasn't been wet in a while.

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            • Rumdog
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              #21
              I will say that the measure of a man has absolutely nothing to do with how much money he makes.

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              • domwilson
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                • Apr 2007
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                #22
                Originally posted by calcagno45 View Post
                Ride in your local ghetto or slums and see where those useful welfare checks are being spent. I guess buy booze with Food Stamps is approved in your eyes. Sure some do spend the money appropriately and for the betterment of themselves and their families. But far too many use this as a crutch for their habits and other inappropriate things.

                But I'm guessing that a person who is less fortunate and receives government assistance can drive a Cadillac, otherwise known as a high prices automobile, and you see that fit. I see proof in my city everywhere.
                You do know that more white women were on welfare than black?

                Government Moto:
                "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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                • Rumdog
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                  #23
                  Trust me man, drug dealers make plenty of money. Money that could be taxed if their werent laws stipulating what one can and cannot do with their body. For some people crack is a necessity. Addiction is a disease, not a law enforcement issue. Welfare cannot pay for a Cadillac, no matter how you slice it.

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                  • domwilson
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                    • Apr 2007
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by calcagno45 View Post
                    I agree with whats stated.

                    So because someone's father worked hard and got wealthy, and passed his wealth down to future families resulting in the lazy as quoted, the government should take part of his wealth and give it to those that don't have it.

                    Or should someone that works a base paying job for a honest living should be supplemented to make him equal with what we classify as the rich? Where is the free market in this? Where is the drive to do better? That is like giving 7th place a trophy. Or saying "hey, you tried hard but didn't win, so here's the a million dollar prize also." When this happens, the entire society will be driven by laziness and dependency. People will become complacent in their lives because they know someone will help them out. How is that fair?
                    Should those that can afford to, shoulder the burdens of society? Even though the top 1% control the largest percentage of wealth, do you think it is fair for the middle class to shoulder a larger percentage of the tax burden? The wealthy can afford to find loopholes, tax shelters, and hire lawyers that the middle class cannot attain. Is that really fair?
                    Government Moto:
                    "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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                    • calcagno45
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Rumdog View Post
                      I will say that the measure of a man has absolutely nothing to do with how much money he makes.

                      So then who is to play Czar, President, or God depict that X is more of a man than Y so X should be paid more?

                      I understand there are hard working people out there that don't get paid enough. I've worked those jobs, I know what it's like. Sure I wish I had a supplemental pay from the government for having good character, but nothing came... I scrounged and hustled for my money to live and obtain my possessions.



                      Originally posted by domwilson View Post
                      You do know that more white women were on welfare than black?

                      http://www.census.gov/population/soc...fs/sb2-95.html

                      I'm well aware. I have never differentiate here based on color. I stated and referred to the "less fortunate" as they are called.



                      Originally posted by Rumdog View Post
                      Trust me man, drug dealers make plenty of money. Money that could be taxed if their werent laws stipulating what one can and cannot do with their body. For some people crack is a necessity. Addiction is a disease, not a law enforcement issue. Welfare cannot pay for a Cadillac, no matter how you slice it.

                      Sure drug dealers make a bundles of money that could very well be taxed appropriately and supply more money for government assistance programs.

                      If Welfare cannot buy Cadillacs, then please show me where these unemployed, government depended people get the money to afford these vehicles?
                      My prop hasn't been wet in a while.

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                      • Rumdog
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                        • Mar 2009
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                        #26
                        Please prove to me that they're unemployed and /or that they actually bought these vehicles..Why is it that people want to blame welfare recipients for the ailing economy. How about that useless money pit of a war we've been fighting.

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                        • domwilson
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                          • Apr 2007
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Rumdog View Post
                          Please prove to me that they're unemployed and /or that they actually bought these vehicles..Why is it that people want to blame welfare recipients for the ailing economy. How about that useless money pit of a war we've been fighting.
                          Or the $700 billion bailout? Or the $2.3 billion that went to CTI that will probably never get paid back. Obama's administration did stop them from getting additional money that they requested.
                          Government Moto:
                          "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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                          • calcagno45
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Rumdog View Post
                            Please prove to me that they're unemployed and /or that they actually bought these vehicles..Why is it that people want to blame welfare recipients for the ailing economy.
                            If you want proof, open your eyes and drive down to the slums. Ask on how they obtained a vehicle with rims while not working and collecting welfare.


                            Originally posted by Rumdog View Post
                            How about that useless money pit of a war we've been fighting.

                            I actually agree there. However, I will say that we should either just bring the heat and end it once and for all, or bring all the troops home now. Something has to be done.
                            My prop hasn't been wet in a while.

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                            • Rumdog
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                              • Mar 2009
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                              #29
                              Why has the war been out of the spotlight lately anyhow? maybe we'll just forget about it huh? How many more people have to die for no reason. How can we win a war when we are not fighting a military force ?

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                              • calcagno45
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                                #30
                                We are fighting the opposition to the new government there, supposedly.
                                My prop hasn't been wet in a while.

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