California board votes to drop healthcare coverage for 60,000 children

[ghostofpf1]

I'm pretty dense here..explain.

"Dr" Jet = rabid right.....
implying that any child's life is worth more than the next particularly using race or immigration status as a metric = saying something unfortunate (ie: stupid)

Clearer now ??

Steve

[domwilson]

Extremely. That's what I thought you meant but didn't want to assume. Unfortunately he is not alone in his thinking proccess. It is truly sad.

[domwilson]

Is the public option on the table or off? Or is it the media playing mind games?

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2009/08/68497191/1?loc=interstitialskip

[Dr. Jet]

"Dr" Jet = rabid right.....
implying that any child's life is worth more than the next particularly using race or immigration status as a metric = saying something unfortunate (ie: stupid)

Clearer now ??

Steve

OK, I've changed my mind. Let's give ALL the children on the planet free healthcare.

[domwilson]

OK, I've changed my mind. Let's give ALL the children on the planet free healthcare.

I don't think that was being said. I believe your statements were being questioned.

[AndyKunz]

PERFECT REPLY, DOM. That is, if you're just trying to prove the hypocrisy of the left.

Bill chose a random position for providing free healthcare - legal citizenship of the parents. He was criticised for using "immigration status as a metric." In reply, he threw out the comment about giving it free to all children.

Now you step in and apparently say that he went too far.

So, you too are apparently using immigration status as a metric. You chose a different position than his at the first.

See the hypocrisy in that?

If you don't have to be here legally to get free health care, why do you have to be here at all to get it? You should be just as entitled as the legal residents.

It's a perfect setup in a debate, and you took the bait.

Thank you.

Andy

[Dr. Jet]

It's a perfect setup in a debate, and you took the bait.

Don't go giving all my tactics away, Andy.

[domwilson]

PERFECT REPLY, DOM. That is, if you're just trying to prove the hypocrisy of the left.

Bill chose a random position for providing free healthcare - legal citizenship of the parents. He was criticised for using "immigration status as a metric." In reply, he threw out the comment about giving it free to all children.

Now you step in and apparently say that he went too far.

So, you too are apparently using immigration status as a metric. You chose a different position than his at the first.

See the hypocrisy in that?

If you don't have to be here legally to get free health care, why do you have to be here at all to get it? You should be just as entitled as the legal residents.

It's a perfect setup in a debate, and you took the bait.

Thank you.

Andy

What are you talking about? Read post #20. I stated that children here, inside these borders should receive healthcare. Show me where I've changed my position.

[domwilson]

Anchor baby: The child of an illegal alien that is tacitly given "citizen" status, thereby making all their relatives "quasi-citizens".

Yes it does really matter. Should we provide healthcare to every child on the planet? Half of the childern on the planet? Just the children of selected nations? Where would you draw the line? I suggest that line should be drawn at our borders. We cannot afford to provide healthcare to the entire population of the planet. A line must be drawn somewhere.

These people leave their crappy, third-world countries and come here illegally; they have no intention of "assimilating" or becoming "Americans", then turn their neighborhoods into a crappy third-world ghettos.

Tell them to take their criminal butts back to their own countries and work on changing them, just like Tom Jefferson, John Adams, and a host of other gentlemen of the period did with this country.

We are not the World's keeper. We only have the responsibility to show them what works and what doesn't.

Andy, just in case you missed it. These are the statements that people are questioning. Not just myself. But feel free to go on the attack. Call me a lefty or whatever.

[ghostofpf1]

What are you talking about? Read post #20. I stated that children here, inside these borders should receive healthcare. Show me where I've changed my position.

Don't let their back slapping get in the way of your sound thinking.They are just so desperate that they have to survive on fantasy victories. Apparently to the point of taking credit where none is due

Steve

[domwilson]

Don't let their back slapping get in the way of your sound thinking.They are just so desperate that they have to survive on fantasy victories. Apparently to the point of taking credit where none is due

Steve

Oh I wasn't. I find it interesting that in defending their views, some will attack those that question them. Often this just shows how weak their position really is.

[Steven Vaccaro]

I have a question, what happens if one of these 60,000 children walks into a emergency room with a ear infection? In Massachusetts its easy, they are covered and have been for a long time. We tax payers flip the bill. Whats changed since they are saying the 60k are cut off?

I have a child on my football team that badly broke his arm this past summer. We told him he need doctors clearance to play football. Do you he CANT find a doctor to get him in quickly. He may miss the season. The current problem isn't easy to fix. But I can tell you just giving everyone health care isn't going to make it better. We need to import doctors, open clinics and all over the place. Otherwise we just overwhelm a already over burdened system.

[domwilson]

To be honest. I don't know. Some hospitals will just turn them away or send them to a county hospital.

[Steven Vaccaro]

To be honest. I don't know. Some hospitals will just turn them away or send them to a county hospital.

By some hospitals do you mean "Private Hospitals"?

[domwilson]

For-Profit hospitals. Although here in Calif. that line is kind of blurry.