2013 FE Nats

[Darin Jordan]

I think N1 SS class should just follow NAMBA rules. I can understand the gents agreement, but people already have their boats setup.

There is not a NAMBA "N1 SS" class... it's just N1... 17.5T ROAR Stock...

The boats Randy is suggesting would be a good candidate to be called "Super Stock", or are otherwise just N2 boats...

[T.S.Davis]

I guess on paper there could be an N1 Sport Hydro class but I've never seen anyone with an N1 Sport.

[RandyatBBY]

I think N1 SS class should just follow NAMBA rules. I can understand the gents agreement, but people already have their boats setup.

No this inspires creativity. This will make it fun to me. Wilmer, myself agrees and so does Mark and right now that is all that is coming to run the class that I know of. You are in 1/10 and 1/8 scale I did not purpose to change them.

[RandyatBBY]

I guess on paper there could be an N1 Sport Hydro class but I've never seen anyone with an N1 Sport.

I did build the boat a while back for several other setups. This is the boat I would run in N1 SS Sport if there was such a thing on the books, it is about the size of the 1/16 Scale. But what I was talking about was the N1 classes we have running a 13.5 turn ROAR Motor.


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[Todd Fleury]

Thank you for the insight guys. Sounds like a challenge for everyone.
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[Todd Fleury]

Thanks for the insight Darin. It sounds like it would be an exciting class to run.

[BILL OXIDEAN]

Great idea

I think Randy is actually trying to keep the spirit of the class alive,
Not sure what fueled him on it, but I like it. A 13.5 is the wind that can viably last 6-laps water cooled or not, and display respectable speeds.
I see a 20 inch mono maintaining an entertaining speed in oval trim with the data/specs I'm willing to release to the public now.

Randy and I are gonna have a GOOD time with it, and so is Tommy.

This is NOT by any means a campaign to do away with our beloved/devout/well contested/nessecary N-1 class because THAT challenge needs to exist in our world.

If nothing at all one of us will write a proposal to add.

BTW, I'm taking this time to offer my opinion on doing away with offshore classes in ANY way (NAMBA).
My vote is NO. Absolutely do NOT get rid of ANY offshore classes WHATSOEVER, or ANY classes for that matter.

My concern is growth. Growth of the hobby first, second, growth of us as racers.
-Diversity. Hey, what if a European, or someone from China with a stepped mono-2 moved here?
Would it hurt for the guy to have a class to race in?

They definitely have classes OUR boats fit right into.
I'm "team" LEAVE THE CLASSES ALONE UNLESS YOU'RE ADDING MORE FUN.

Those classes aint botherin' nobody..

[Darin Jordan]

I think Randy is actually trying to keep the spirit of the class alive,
Not sure what fueled him on it, but I like it. A 13.5 is the wind that can viably last 6-laps water cooled or not, and display respectable speeds.
I see a 20 inch mono maintaining an entertaining speed in oval trim with the data/specs I'm willing to release to the public now.

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If nothing at all one of us will write a proposal to add.

Or just submit the one you already have in your hand.... Just have to pick the motor wind you want it to include...

It would be fun... and would bring back the 1/16th scale sized boats... which currently really have no place to effectively run.

[T.S.Davis]

We don't need N1 anymore. Those classes can barely field a heat at the largest events in the country. We'll leave it in because those that see this truth aren't willing to argue about it. We revised the large cell count classes to make the participation in those classes more probable/possible. Any time the N1 subject comes up it's a holy war even though very very few run it.

Nobody has proposed getting rid of any offshore classes. Not in any proposals I've seen or heard of.

A spec for N2 might be the only way to save any of the 2s classes. It cost less to go the same speed with a spec boat as it is right now.

[BILL OXIDEAN]

Or just submit the one you already have in your hand.... Just have to pick the motor wind you want it to include...

It would be fun... and would bring back the 1/16th scale sized boats... which currently really have no place to effectively run.

I knew you'd like this, and I still have the proposal format you sent me.
I could simply modify a few words and Voila!

[madmikepags]

Terry you're right, the N1 class on a national level is pretty much dead, but isn't Q-Hydro? (and by the way I'm the current nat champ in that) and a few other classes??? you keep em there in case the nats come to wherever, and theres a bunch of guys that have those boats, and we have at least a dozen N1-ers in D1 that would love to vye for a Nat chapionship when or if the nats come here to D1. I'm not gonna get into the rules and all that about it because wilmer has done amazing things with these little boats but the normal racer who doesn't have hours and hours to mess around with turbo boost and timing advance can't compete w a guy like wilmer. We keep the class simple still, we use brushed 27T motors and speedos and a 2 cell LiPo, our motors are $20 batteries are $15-$18 bucks and speedos are free (we all have bunches of old car speedos lying around that work fine) I'm on my third season now with the same motor speedo and batts in 3 N1's w/ little maitainence (cut the com beginning of each season and change brushes).
And I didn't even know they were looking to get rid of offshore classes????? I definitely would not race at ANY National event if they eliminated Offshore!

[RandyatBBY]

It is up for vote to possibly eliminate Offshore in SAW's you guys are confused. It is a little confusing not sure is it is just 2 lap or all #8 in question.

http://www.namba.com/content/library/rules/rule_proposals_2013-01.pdf

[T.S.Davis]

And I didn't even know they were looking to get rid of offshore classes????? I definitely would not race at ANY National event if they eliminated Offshore!

I getcha Mike. 10th scale is another example of exactly what you're saying. We tried it up here and couldn't find enough guys to run a single heat. Guys just aren't into it up here. Makes no sense with the gold cup and all. But up in the NW they totally dig it.

Your right about Q too. That's why the larger cell count classes were re-written so that Q,S, and T can run together if the numbers don't support them separately.

As far as I know there is no talk of eliminating anything in NAMBA. In fact, the latest proposals include new cats only classes. If monos can sprint why not cats? Seems obvious to most.

[madmikepags]

yes it's way too long overdue for cat classes, they can't run w the riggers, I like the idea of cats and monos running together!!! but thats just me.

[BILL OXIDEAN]

yes it's way too long overdue for cat classes, they can't run w the riggers, I like the idea of cats and monos running together!!! but thats just me.

I think cats and monos running together is perfect.
Our full scale counterparts do so, why can't we? Let's keep all our classes.