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  • G Doggett
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 446

    #16
    It's an interesting topic, but I can't help feeling you guys are attempting to solve a problem that doesn't exist. !
    Graham.

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    • pescador
      Senior Member
      • May 2009
      • 499

      #17
      There are also these thermoelectric Peltier coolers they use in aquariums and computers maybe somebody could figure out an application for them.
      Keep your water tank cold electrically?
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      • Simon.O.
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Oct 2007
        • 1521

        #18
        Another approach to cooling if you realy need a lot for overloaded setups is to pre cool. I do this with my 4S rigger. I have a window washer pump and bottle and hoses that circulates iced water to the motor prior to a run. I can also use it post run.
        This is only for my big rigger.
        All of my other setups get what water the need out on the water and as Jeff said a few moments on/in the water prior to pulling it out is all they need.
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        • sailr
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Nov 2007
          • 6924

          #19
          could one of those be used as an 'electronic heatsink' on an esc?

          Originally posted by pescador View Post
          There are also these thermoelectric Peltier coolers they use in aquariums and computers maybe somebody could figure out an application for them.
          Keep your water tank cold electrically?
          http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=pel...1&_from=&_ipg=
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          • Jeff Wohlt
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Jan 2008
            • 2716

            #20
            Yes they can. They begin cooling pretty fast. Just need a 12v source. Oh and when reversed they heat to 140 degrees...warming lipos? Heck yes!
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            • sailr
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Nov 2007
              • 6924

              #21
              Very interesting. I wonder if a small 3S pack would be enough amps to drive it. Hmmmm, might want to do some more detailed investigation. I have seen the little coolers that plug into your cigarette lighter at garage sales pretty cheap. Might be worth buying one and tearing it apart.

              Originally posted by Jeff Wohlt View Post
              Yes they can. They begin cooling pretty fast. Just need a 12v source. Oh and when reversed they heat to 140 degrees...warming lipos? Heck yes!
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              • Jeff Wohlt
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Jan 2008
                • 2716

                #22
                Yep, but you can buy them for $6 on e-bay. They are a bit amp hungry.
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                • sailr
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 6924

                  #23
                  Yeah, I saw where they say MAX 6A. I suppose the more 'exchange' of heat to cool, the higher the amp draw. I would think a 3S 2200 30C battery should drive it although it is below 12V which might drive the amps up even more....right? Interesting to think about anyway. May not be practical on anything smaller than a P mono though. If it works it sure would be an interesting concept.

                  Originally posted by Jeff Wohlt View Post
                  Yep, but you can buy them for $6 on e-bay. They are a bit amp hungry.
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                  • Jeff Wohlt
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 2716

                    #24
                    I think it will work fine on the 3s. They have some volt spread and I think all the way up to 15v.

                    Sure would be an easy adaption. I was thinking 1 per layer...if they are ceramic coated then no worries about shorting if touching the stack above.

                    Can a person split a himodel ESC to slip them in the layers?
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                    • Steven Vaccaro
                      Administrator
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 8724

                      #25
                      This is cool, but I have a another suggestion for sport running. Run a larger mass motor than needed. For example I fried the 380L motor in my delta 25 because of a simple leaf in the tubing. I switched to a 540L, same speed but dont even need cooling any longer.
                      Steven Vaccaro

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                      • Ken Haines
                        Racer
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 647

                        #26
                        Spec classes

                        Hi Steve,
                        Certainly you are correct on using larger than required motors, ESC, Batteries etc. to lower all the temps, but I'm challenged by the LSO & LSH restrictions. Especially in LSO when a 4 minute run is required. Since we have a spec power system your current options all sacrifice speed. I'm not much for that so I blow up a lot of motors.
                        I do beleive that we are looking at a chemical coolant ie; freon or ice packs or an efficient electrical cooling system. Maybe someone will have an even better idea. I'm still concerned about the coolant loop volume. Even the water pickup sytems turn the water pretty hot, just feel thewater outlet water on most of your boats when you pull them out of the water. Sometimes than little trickle of water is even hot enogh to sting you. Cooling takes time and if the flow cycle duration is too short the heat transfer will not have time enough to occur. I do not think however that slower flow is the answer either, although some would challenge this physics would not agree with them.
                        Pardon me everyone I work at a nuclear plant, some of the same cooling theories apply, maybe thats why I'm so interested in this topic. Sorry to geek out !!!
                        This is good stuff from everyone lets keep this going.
                        Thanks, Ken
                        TenShock Brushless / Pro Marine
                        INSANE Boats / Rico Racing/ Castle Creations
                        2023, 2024 NAMBA & 2018 IMPBA FE High Points "National Champion"

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                        • paulwilliams
                          Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 82

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Ken Haines View Post
                          Pardon me everyone I work at a nuclear plant


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                          • Ken Haines
                            Racer
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 647

                            #28
                            My Photo

                            Hey Paul,
                            How did you get my photo ? lol.

                            Good one you got me.

                            Ken
                            TenShock Brushless / Pro Marine
                            INSANE Boats / Rico Racing/ Castle Creations
                            2023, 2024 NAMBA & 2018 IMPBA FE High Points "National Champion"

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                            • paulwilliams
                              Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 82

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Ken Haines View Post
                              Hey Paul,
                              How did you get my photo ? lol.

                              Good one you got me.

                              Ken


                              Sorry Ken, couldn't resist that one! Many years ago, I worked on this:



                              UK's first (and maybe only/last??) PWR.

                              Paul
                              www.fastelectrics.net

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                              • pescador
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2009
                                • 499

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Jeff Wohlt View Post
                                I think it will work fine on the 3s. They have some volt spread and I think all the way up to 15v.

                                Sure would be an easy adaption. I was thinking 1 per layer...if they are ceramic coated then no worries about shorting if touching the stack above.

                                Can a person split a himodel ESC to slip them in the layers?
                                One thing with these, they move heat, they don't dissipate it you still have to use some sort of heat sink.
                                Should be easy to salvage one from a pc or even teamed up with one of the little esc fans.
                                Namba District 16
                                1/8 Miss U.S., 1/8 59 Maverick, 1/8 Executone, 1/8 Smokin Joes, MLGSX380, AC Pro40II Q Sport, AC Pro40II nitro,Twincraft mono 10s, Vision AOPC, VS1 FE, M34.

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