Weigh in on motor comparision for 1:10 scale!

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  • rayzerdesigns
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Dec 2013
    • 1228

    #16
    im gonna order one this week..what prop are u guys running??

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    • Darin Jordan
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Apr 2007
      • 8332

      #17
      Here is a pretty basic fact... There are enough 1/10th Scale guys that are NAMBA members to pretty much get anything passed for FE if they want it passed. Aren't enough voting members in the entire country from an FE perspective, especially those that will actually take the time to vote (WHY is our country in such a mess these days??? Hmmmmm....).

      If they can get the proposal up for a vote (through their District directors, etc.), it'll pretty much pass on their votes alone, unless someone mounts a Nitro/Gas "counter-offensive"...

      I'm going to enjoy watching this one...
      Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
      "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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      • rayzerdesigns
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Dec 2013
        • 1228

        #18
        lol darin..no popcorn..it seems the scale guys are on same page..and mitch..as for the hulls not being stable at much faster..i have had my 10th Budweiser bradshaw hull over 60mph with a 40x72 motor..no problems with stability..just have to run a lot of wing

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        • Coug90
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 149

          #19
          Originally posted by rayzerdesigns View Post
          im gonna order one this week..what prop are u guys running??
          I have been running the Himax in my division 2 boat and started out with the Octura X447R detongued and with a little cup in it. I haven't tried the cnc 48mm yet with that boat, but I have most recently run it with a cnc 3-blade 46mm and it's showing promise. I don't have much time on the boat yet, but look forward to getting more testing in. I would try the same props to start with that you were running already and go from there. I haven't tried anything much larger than that and it would likely make the ride suffer. Looking forward to hearing what you think when you've run both motors with different props etc on your boat.
          Mitch Dillard
          1:10 Scale Hydroplane Enthusiast
          hydroscalecreations.us, email:hydroscale@gmail.com

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          • Coug90
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 149

            #20
            Originally posted by Darin Jordan View Post
            Here is a pretty basic fact... There are enough 1/10th Scale guys that are NAMBA members to pretty much get anything passed for FE if they want it passed. Aren't enough voting members in the entire country from an FE perspective, especially those that will actually take the time to vote (WHY is our country in such a mess these days??? Hmmmmm....).

            If they can get the proposal up for a vote (through their District directors, etc.), it'll pretty much pass on their votes alone, unless someone mounts a Nitro/Gas "counter-offensive"...

            I'm going to enjoy watching this one...
            Darin, what is the status of the current ProBoat and Aquacraft motors that are listed for 1:10 Scale use. You hear so many rumors about whether they still produce them or not or if they've gone in another direction completely for their RTR models and won't continue offering them etc. I figure if anyone would know, you would.
            Mitch Dillard
            1:10 Scale Hydroplane Enthusiast
            hydroscalecreations.us, email:hydroscale@gmail.com

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            • rayzerdesigns
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Dec 2013
              • 1228

              #21
              I just picked up 2 proboat motors..so they are still avail for a bit I guess..I ordered them from my local hobby shop

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              • Darin Jordan
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Apr 2007
                • 8332

                #22
                Originally posted by Coug90 View Post
                Darin, what is the status of the current ProBoat and Aquacraft motors that are listed for 1:10 Scale use. You hear so many rumors about whether they still produce them or not or if they've gone in another direction completely for their RTR models and won't continue offering them etc. I figure if anyone would know, you would.
                Can't speak for the AquaCraft motors.

                Pro Boat has discontinued the 1500 and 1800KV motors. The 1800's are out of stock. There are still 1500's in stock. Get them while you can.
                Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                • TheShaughnessy
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 1419

                  #23
                  I was looking at AQ motors the other day and it seems the original blue can, what I call the SV27 motor is still available.


                  Darin any idea on when the new 2000kv motor will be in stock? Fast serve isn't showing a date.

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                  • Darin Jordan
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 8332

                    #24
                    Originally posted by TheShaughnessy View Post
                    Darin any idea on when the new 2000kv motor will be in stock? Fast serve isn't showing a date.
                    I'm sorry, I really don't know. I'll inquire and see if I can find out.
                    Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                    "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                    • Coug90
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 149

                      #25
                      Thanks for the info Darin. This is exactly why the spec classes need to continue to look for comparable options that fall into the same performance range. I was looking around yesterday and see that Leopard offers a motor that looks to fit the bill for testing in 1:10 scale. Very affordable 3650 sized motor with 800 watts and 1650 kv. Anyone ever try this motor? It might be worth looking at in the future too. The numbers look fairly comparable.
                      Mitch Dillard
                      1:10 Scale Hydroplane Enthusiast
                      hydroscalecreations.us, email:hydroscale@gmail.com

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                      • T.S.Davis
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 6228

                        #26
                        Mitch, something to consider. Outside of the NW where scale is a staple, when guys that don't run scale watch them race there is a common comment. I hear it every time I see scale go......."why are they so slow?" At least twice I've hear "like watching paint dry".

                        My point is, it might be worth considering a bit more power for these in the future. Just a bit. Not like Neu power. If you guys are thinking about moving to something outside of the RTR selection that doesn't break the bank you might at as well make the performance better. It might trickle out into the rest of the country that way. ERCU used to run Astro motors if I remember correctly so I doubt anybody cares about the RTR market motors.

                        We tried an SS 3650 in limited just before the water froze. With the SS brand the 3650 didn't have enough rotor mass to turn props the boats want. Even in the cold water they couldn't give us what we wanted. We have a couple different options coming in to test but the water is a bit chunky here now. The Leopard may be different.

                        A good possibility might be the TP motor that Peterson is using in D4. That would likely be a bit tougher, a tic more power, and "should" be available for longer period.

                        Those outrunners have a higher heat tolerance. I'm surprised nobody has thrown more prop at them.
                        Noisy person

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                        • rayzerdesigns
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Dec 2013
                          • 1228

                          #27
                          I like that idea terry..I think classic thunder in their modern class which is division 3 is any motor..only their vintage and older hydrostatic run spec motors..I know name a rules and ercu run spec..but I don't think 50 mph or little faster is slow..If you talk to most of the guys it's more for scale realism..but I also like to go faster..I have had my modern at 60 with a 40x74 motor..but if u flip at that speed..pretty much assured a loss of hull..it is a fun class..I should have my scorpion motor here on monday..and I fully plan on throwing some prop at it..

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                          • Darin Jordan
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 8332

                            #28
                            Racing is racing, whether the boats are capable of 40 or 50 or 60. Plus, speed just makes more damage, and scale is hard enough to do without the additional damage.
                            Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                            "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                            • rayzerdesigns
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 1228

                              #29
                              I agree..The racing seems to be close..and believe me..When u crash and destroy a 900$ hull..it hurts..

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                              • T.S.Davis
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 6228

                                #30
                                I understand Darin but if the speeds don't attract people..................next thing you know you have N1 participation. 10th scale doesn't run much outside of a couple pockets.
                                Noisy person

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