56-1nch Venom P-1 gas to brushless question

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  • forescott
    Hopelessly Addicted to RC
    • Nov 2009
    • 2686

    #1

    56-1nch Venom P-1 gas to brushless question

    Hey guys. Against all the advice ive read against the big venom p-1 hull, I decided to pick one up since I love the look of the hull and they are now discontinued. Just bought a new rtr off ebay and am going to convert it to brushless. Aside from doing what I can to strengthen the hull, I am looking at the castle 2028 on 8-10s. Not looking for break-neck speed. I'd be happy with a reliable 50+. However I'm a noob to the HV setups and have been trying to gather information on the best esc that will suit my needs. Any info or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
  • madmikepags
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Aug 2012
    • 1359

    #2
    the 2028 with a castle 200HV on 10s would get you where you want to go, 50mph reliably shouldn't be an issue depending on the weight though. Don't skimp on batteries, Dinogy is what I recommend..
    We call ourselves the "Q"

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    • forescott
      Hopelessly Addicted to RC
      • Nov 2009
      • 2686

      #3
      Was kinda hoping I could get away with a leopard or proteus motor to save some $$$. Ive seen/heard some guys running leopard 5698's on 10s in similar hulls, but have no idea how reliable they have been. The castle setup seems to be the best quality choice. hmmmm....... Having a hard time letting go of the cash!

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      • madmikepags
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Aug 2012
        • 1359

        #4
        you definitely can 750-850kv and 8000-12,000 watts on 10S 4 or 6 pole motor I don't know the nomenclature for the leopards or the proteus motors but the Castle is definitely the bulletproof choice.
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        • iamandrew
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2010
          • 574

          #5
          yeah I really like the look of that hull as well
          Most Venom hulls are actually very thin and light, the KOS large gasser hull is (too) thin
          Also the hatch on the cat breaks apart easily, so might need to enforce the one on the P1 as well

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          • Jason4636
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2012
            • 654

            #6
            Originally posted by forescott View Post
            Was kinda hoping I could get away with a leopard or proteus motor to save some $$$. Ive seen/heard some guys running leopard 5698's on 10s in similar hulls, but have no idea how reliable they have been. The castle setup seems to be the best quality choice. hmmmm....... Having a hard time letting go of the cash!
            I have a Proteus 524 3t and a FC motor mount up for sale. I'll make you a deal if you wanna run them.

            I was going to put it in an MHZ Mystic Study its a 56" mono. With the proteus run on 10s and a SF 300Pro+ esc. It would have been right at a solid 50+mph and very reliable. I've switched to a twin Proteus 528's, there just like the Castle 2028. But I'm going twins. I'm going to try and break 75-80mph.

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            • forescott
              Hopelessly Addicted to RC
              • Nov 2009
              • 2686

              #7
              Originally posted by iamandrew View Post
              yeah I really like the look of that hull as well
              Most Venom hulls are actually very thin and light, the KOS large gasser hull is (too) thin
              Also the hatch on the cat breaks apart easily, so might need to enforce the one on the P1 as well
              yeah, I have the venom/atomic 55-inch brushless cat. Its pretty thin, but ok for the little outrunner they put in it. Any 56mm motor will need some substantial beefing-up.

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              • forescott
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                • Nov 2009
                • 2686

                #8
                Originally posted by Jason4636 View Post
                I have a Proteus 524 3t and a FC motor mount up for sale. I'll make you a deal if you wanna run them.

                I was going to put it in an MHZ Mystic Study its a 56" mono. With the proteus run on 10s and a SF 300Pro+ esc. It would have been right at a solid 50+mph and very reliable. I've switched to a twin Proteus 528's, there just like the Castle 2028. But I'm going twins. I'm going to try and break 75-80mph.
                I saw your ad. I want to get the boat in my hands first to see what I'm dealing with. Should have it by friday.

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                • Jason4636
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 654

                  #9
                  I didn't know if you had seen it. I wish you luck on the hull. I know the hull I'm getting is Carbon fiber/Kevlar, but it's gonna cost me.

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                  • forescott
                    Hopelessly Addicted to RC
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 2686

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Jason4636 View Post
                    I didn't know if you had seen it. I wish you luck on the hull. I know the hull I'm getting is Carbon fiber/Kevlar, but it's gonna cost me.
                    Thanks. I'll keep an eye on your sale thread!

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                    • gtrcguru
                      Radio Control Guru
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 160

                      #11
                      i am thinking of doing the same thing but w/ 55 seagad. i know where i can pick one up local at a killer price. almost to good to pass up. so my question is would anybody be intrested in motor pipe and all the gas related equipment and what do you think it is worth(to the right buyer)?
                      58" Venom Segad-48" Prather Deep Vee-41" Dumas 1/8 Hydro-34" Saga C1-32" Venom KOS P1-31" Pro Boat Impulse V1

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                      • forescott
                        Hopelessly Addicted to RC
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 2686

                        #12
                        I'm gonna try and sell my stuff over at Jims rc boat dock. Lotsa gas guys over there.

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                        • forescott
                          Hopelessly Addicted to RC
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 2686

                          #13
                          Just got the boat today. Looks really nice. like the hardware. Trim tabs are kinda weird. Like a tab and turn fin in one. Anyone interested in the motor/clutch let me know. Its all coming out soon.
                          Attached Files

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                          • lenny
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 4297

                            #14
                            How much are we talking for the motor and stuff you are pulling out ?
                            I may have a use for them,
                            Any idea on how much run time on the motor ?
                            I had the same turn and trim tab on my 35"p1,
                            I just hammered them flat and flip flop them from side to side added real turn fins and modded the rudder to be offset.
                            P1 35 KOS 010.jpgP1 35 KOS 011.jpgP1 35 KOS 012.jpgP1 35 KOS 014.jpgP1 35 KOS 015.jpg
                            ? ONLY IF THEY WORK

                            My youtube videos.http://www.youtube.com/user/61manx?feature=mhee

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                            • forescott
                              Hopelessly Addicted to RC
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 2686

                              #15
                              Originally posted by lenny View Post
                              How much are we talking for the motor and stuff you are pulling out ?
                              I may have a use for them,
                              Any idea on how much run time on the motor ?
                              This is a brand new boat. The motor has never been fired. Im thinking $120 shipped for the complete motor, mounts, clutch, tuned pipe.
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                              Last edited by forescott; 12-08-2012, 12:22 AM.

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