Spartan, tear it down to build it up

[Brushless55]

Most Spartan customers are not racing the boat and reserve 6S for high-speed runs, not steady-state WOT running. 6S LiPo represents the peak of the Spartan's power handling capability; most customers operate the boat with the included batteries or a 4S setup. I'm not saying you have to be satisfied with that, I'm just noting the Spartan's mission as conceived by Traxxas may not be the same as your mission for the boat.

I find this very hard to believe that customers are buying this product to only run on Nimh packs to go 25-26mph, or 4s to hit 30mph..

better products on the market for 4s running that cost less and run faster!

everyone who buys this see this like I see on my box
oh and by the way, no one is hitting low 50's in stock trim

and also on the box it says this (Ready-to-Race)


so those who see this will get the 3s packs and run it WOT because of marketing

to many other RTR products on the market that are much faster and do not over heat when running WOT within there own abilities, and these are pushed beyond the limits they were created!!
like the Aquacraft UL-1, SV27, and the new Motley Crew Cat
Proboat has the FASTeck, Stiletto, and the MG

many of those RTRs can be pushed beyond their designed limits and run like mad, actually every one of them can!
awesome products that don't have these heat issues, motor problems and esc's going up in smoke

[PeterTRAXXAS]

I deleted the post you quoted above, before you posted this. I'll also delete a similar post at the Traxxas site, as the Spartan IS designed for sustained 6S operation. Sorry for the misinformation.

[Brushless55]

I deleted the post you quoted above, before you posted this. I'll also delete a similar post at the Traxxas site, as the Spartan IS designed for sustained 6S operation. Sorry for the misinformation.

picture says "Ready-to-Race"

[PeterTRAXXAS]

I recalled writing something about running the boat at WOT, but it was about run time, not overheating. Obviously, run time will be shorter when you run at WOT, but the Spartan is designed for sustained 6S running.

That's not to say anyone with overheating issues is imagining it, I'm just clearing up that no one at Traxxas is going to tell you not to run 6S WOT, race-style. The boat is meant to handle it.

[JPriami]

If you want to make the Spartan a bullet proof FE boat that will charm the pants off it's owners take my advise. Make the motor a 4 pole & place that strut up higher than where your mounting it now by 1/8" maybe slightly more. This will help stability issues at high speed by keeping more of the V of the hull in the water over 50mph. Do something better with that stuffing tube and flex cable. It's no count after running 6S on it after a while. The stock flex becomes soft and turns into a problem. Stop sending oil to the users in the RTR box to put on the cable. That's not good enough. And replace that strut with a better one or make a rubber seal that hoes between the back of the hull and the end of the strut. The gap that's left there acts like a vaccum in the water and all the oil/grease cones off of it after one run because of it.

[PeterTRAXXAS]

Thanks, everything is being duly noted. Much respect for everyone's input.

[Brushless55]

If you want to make the Spartan a bullet proof FE boat that will charm the pants off it's ownmad take my advise. Make the motor a 4 pole & place that strut up higher than where your mounting it now by 1/8" maybe slightly more. This will help stability issues at high speed by keeping more of the V of the hull in the water over 50mph. Do something better with that stuffing tube and flex cable. It's no count after running 6S on it after a while. The stock flex becomes soft and turns into a problem. Stop sending oil to the users in the RTR box to put on the cable. That's not good enough. And replace that strut with a better one or make a rubber seal that goes between the back of the hull and the end of the strut. The gap that's left there acts like a vaccum in the water and all the oil/grease cones off of it after one run because of it.

good stuff man

[PeterTRAXXAS]

Is it ALWAYS peanut butter jelly time?

[JPriami]

Is it ALWAYS peanut butter jelly time?

Im sorry I dont understand this comment. please enlighten me

[PeterTRAXXAS]

Brushless 55's dancing banana guy. It will drive you bananas (groan)

[Brushless55]

[JPriami]

No what drives you bananas is a traxxas spartan. If you owned one and ran it enough on 6S and chased after what marketing pumped it up to be only to be let down one thing after the next you would understand

[JPriami]

Traxxas you should just sell two versions of these boats like you do with revo 1/16 and vxl stuff.
Sell one to run on NiMh packs near 30mph. Then sell a version that can run 6S lipo and do the 50+ mph its been sold to do and do it with a system that 100% continuous duty cycle proof. With better quality parts.
Or try this idea of mine:
The tray design is great. Just offer upgraded trays for the users that buy the NimH versions and get bored with them. the trays can come with a race motor and esc on them for 6S running. for those that want to bring the excitement back.

[shctexas]

Well this has been fun!

[Brushless55]

No what drives you bananas is a traxxas spartan. If you owned one and ran it enough on 6S and chased after what marketing pumped it up to be only to be let down one thing after the next you would understand

what, no warning points?