Proboat Blackjack 29" V3 - new hull, 2000kv motor, 120A ESC & EC5 plugs.

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  • Fr8cture
    Junior Member
    • May 2015
    • 18

    #121
    Yeah I plan on running stock on 4s and probably get a s&b prop when one comes in stock and eventually going to a better setup for 6s. I was just wondering if the weight is an issue or if it will hurt performance. Guy on facebook said it would be fine and the higher amps would be better.

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    • montymike
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 774

      #122
      Can be programmed with a hobbywing program box. Was suspect to this.

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      • montymike
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 774

        #123
        That MOTOR is a d wind 7.5 or less I'm thinking a boat a 3630 1500tp 7y motor on mine don't like the stock motor on 6s also needs 50c+ battery very stable boat. More fun on 6s then 4s used a x640 an octura prop.

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        • waterproof
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2013
          • 239

          #124
          Hi. I maby want to buy this boat and use it on 6s.
          Would it be stupid fast or could the hull handle it without bounce to high and just flip over?

          Had a miss geico v2 before on 6s with upgraded esc and it just flip over to often, tryed all the adjustments without blueprinting.
          The blackjack v3 do not need to be blueprinted?

          Almost every video on YouTube it run to high and bounce to mutch..

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          • montymike
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 774

            #125
            This boat is way better then the old boats. Fast stable does not bounce like the V1 *v2 if u like the geico will be out in July same as bj3 . With geico online rudder.

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            • waterproof
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2013
              • 239

              #126
              I got the boat yesterday and i hope i could try it out today if i get the ec5 Connection.
              Do you know what the Stock esc setup is? Thinking about the lipocut, if it cut or slow the speed so i could run it in land.
              Is the flex shaft from miss Geico 29 the same as the blackjack v3?
              Cant get a programcard because almost everybody is sold out right now and Horizon hobby does not ship to my country..

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              • montymike
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2012
                • 774

                #127
                Ok well can use the hobywing program card. Just need a short male to male cord.
                On mine setup was 1. forward and backward pos.2, 2 auto calculations pos. 1 3 low voltage cutoff pos. 4 (3.2)v 4 timing 15°pos 5
                Only one I changed was timiing to 7.5°
                The flex shaft is not the same as the V1&2 geico as the V3 blackjack (motor position) not sure on the new v3 geico coming in July thinking same as v3 blackJack .


                Hope this helps mike

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                • Rafael_Lopez
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2015
                  • 470

                  #128
                  Montymike is right as far as the settings. The online manual shows 7.5* timing. That is because of a running change I have made that will take effect in the near future.

                  The drive cable, and everything else other than paint, is the same for both V3 29 inch hulls.
                  Rafael Lopez
                  Product Developer-Pro Boat
                  My Facebook https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100010183246751

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                  • montymike
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 774

                    #129
                    Originally posted by Rafael_Lopez View Post
                    Montymike is right as far as the settings. The online manual shows 7.5* timing. That is because of a running change I have made that will take effect in the near future.

                    The drive cable, and everything else other than paint, is the same for both V3 29 inch hulls.
                    Thanks Rafael l...

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                    • waterproof
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2013
                      • 239

                      #130
                      Originally posted by Rafael_Lopez View Post
                      Montymike is right as far as the settings. The online manual shows 7.5* timing. That is because of a running change I have made that will take effect in the near future.

                      The drive cable, and everything else other than paint, is the same for both V3 29 inch hulls.
                      Hi Rafael.
                      Im still unsure if i want to try the boat with my new 35c 5200mh 3s lipo.
                      It stand it have 70c burst.
                      Have a question for you.

                      If the lipo dont deliver enough when i have full trottle, would it be stress for the esc even if the lipo is not hot since i dont race it? Or must the lipo be hot enough first?
                      Thinking about when i give full trottle for 10 seconds and if it not deliver enough, and battery still have normal temp since i dont race it ?
                      Could it still stress esc when it not deliver enough even on normal temprature battery?
                      What could happen if it dont deliver enough for about 10 second on full trottle? Then maby 10-20 second half trottle and then again 10 new second on full trottle?
                      Is it just to check temprature or have the bad thing happen already when i run full trottle and esc maby dont get enough power?

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                      • montymike
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 774

                        #131
                        Mine did the same, on low c packs that's why say requirements 50c + battery when I put my 60c packs in the boat works fine.

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                        • waterproof
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2013
                          • 239

                          #132
                          Originally posted by montymike View Post
                          Mine did the same, on low c packs that's why say requirements 50c + battery when I put my 60c packs in the boat works fine.
                          I think you dont understand what i say because i have not tryed it yet :)
                          Sorry for poor english :)
                          What lipo did you try and what happen with your first lipo?

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                          • montymike
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 774

                            #133
                            35c Hyperion 2s /2 so 4s

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                            • waterproof
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2013
                              • 239

                              #134
                              Originally posted by gregster82 View Post
                              Horizon sent me the manual for the esc. I see descrepancys in it with calibration. Also they dont say it can he programmed by transmitter. Weird.....


                              http://www.horizonhobby.com/pdf/DYNM...nual-MULTI.pdf
                              Looks like the default timing is 7.5? If not i need a program card

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                              • Rafael_Lopez
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2015
                                • 470

                                #135
                                Originally posted by waterproof View Post
                                Looks like the default timing is 7.5? If not i need a program card
                                The online manual reflects a change to the ESC programing that is not present on the current models. There is nothing wrong with the default timing, but if you are using batteries with less than the recommended C rating, I suggest you lower the timing to 7.5*. Your boat's timing is 15*.

                                The reason I have made the running change to timing is to allow the system to run without requiring so much amperage. Also, not everyone buys the recommended batteries.

                                If your batteries do not have the necessary discharge amperage, they will puff rather quickly. CHeck your battery temperature after 1 minute of run time, but less than 2.
                                Rafael Lopez
                                Product Developer-Pro Boat
                                My Facebook https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100010183246751

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