Proboat Blackjack 29" V3 - new hull, 2000kv motor, 120A ESC & EC5 plugs.

[Buddyroe]

Hi. I have the new Blackjack 29 v3. I was running 4s but moved up to 6s and enjoying the faster speed. Any recommendations for a prop that will improve top speed on 6s? I have seem some comments about an Octura x440 and x442 for this version of the Blackjack. Any other feedback? If speed would only go up 2-3mph I probably won't make a change but if it's 5-10mph then would consider spending the $$. Thanks!!

I have a big selection of props to try when I get time. Mine ran 48.8mph out the box on 6s. I will let you know what I come up with. Todd

[Darin Jordan]

Guys... just to be clear... the V3 BlackJack 29 is a completely new hull.

"What would you change on the BJ29 hull if you had a chance to update it" was asked. I got out my drawing equipment and drew up the changes (hull-geometry stuff), and Pro Boat responded. Pro Boat added the interior re-design and some updated hardware.

Without getting into gory details.... New ride pad geometry, blended here, angled there, etc. If setup correctly, the "Wa-Wa" shouldn't be there.

The hull is quite a bit "beefier". It's being manufactured from a new supplier and I think you'll find it quite a bit stronger. That comes at a weight penalty, but that is what it is. You can't always have both. Even with the additional weight, the hull comes out of the box 1-2mph faster than previous versions.

Ride pads should be arriving much flatter and a bit sharper. It's still a "mass-produced" product, so it's not going to be perfect and there is always room for "blue-printing". That's the case with EVERY boat out there, Production or not.

Also, Rafael Lopez, who introduced himself above in this thread, is the new Pro Boat development manager at Horizon and is quite a forward thinking guy. He's a little new to boats, but from what I saw at my last visit to LA, he has things well-in-hand. I think you'll see some fun stuff in coming years. Give the guy a break. You guys seem awefully quick to "pounce" on a guy who is only here to try to help. Maybe sit back and count to 10 before you hit "post reply" and think about how the conversation would go if you were sitting there face-to-face.

[luv2fly27]

I have a big selection of props to try when I get time. Mine ran 48.8mph out the box on 6s. I will let you know what I come up with. Todd

Thanks Todd! Interested to hear what you find. If anyone else has some prop suggestions that should push 50+ Id love to hear about it! Thanks again

[RCBoaterGuy]

Darin,
...The hull is quite a bit "beefier". It's being manufactured from a new supplier...
Does that also apply to the new Mean Green SW26?? Trav has one, going over 50mph to boot, seem to remember reading one or more of his posts where he mentioned them having a better hull than the v3's.

Regarding the BJ29v3... That comes at a weight penalty... ok, by the time you B/P a MG29 hull, you've added weight (bondo \ marine putty)... yes??

Could've swore I've seen posts where your reminding folks about the new Dynamite 3660-2000Kv motors being a lot stronger than the Dynamite 1800's they replaced. If yes, than I would think that would more than make up for the slight weight increase. Just an observation....

Guys... just to be clear... the V3 BlackJack 29 is a completely new hull.

"What would you change on the BJ29 hull if you had a chance to update it" was asked. I got out my drawing equipment and drew up the changes (hull-geometry stuff), and Pro Boat responded. Pro Boat added the interior re-design and some updated hardware.

Without getting into gory details.... New ride pad geometry, blended here, angled there, etc. If setup correctly, the "Wa-Wa" shouldn't be there.

The hull is quite a bit "beefier". It's being manufactured from a new supplier and I think you'll find it quite a bit stronger. That comes at a weight penalty, but that is what it is. You can't always have both. Even with the additional weight, the hull comes out of the box 1-2mph faster than previous versions.

Ride pads should be arriving much flatter and a bit sharper. It's still a "mass-produced" product, so it's not going to be perfect and there is always room for "blue-printing". That's the case with EVERY boat out there, Production or not.

Also, Rafael Lopez, who introduced himself above in this thread, is the new Pro Boat development manager at Horizon and is quite a forward thinking guy. He's a little new to boats, but from what I saw at my last visit to LA, he has things well-in-hand. I think you'll see some fun stuff in coming years. Give the guy a break. You guys seem awefully quick to "pounce" on a guy who is only here to try to help. Maybe sit back and count to 10 before you hit "post reply" and think about how the conversation would go if you were sitting there face-to-face.

[Pedro Ramos]

ok guys, I agree with Darin Jordan, this new hull that now I had it for a while now, i don't experience wa-wa-wa on flat or choppy waters, on 4s or 6s, believe it or not it still has the stock hardware setup, I did not move it a lil bit. I just position my batteries all the way to the front and presto.
Regarding Mr Rafael Lopez, welcome to the forum, my only suggestion to you is to work on customer service response. till this date I'm waiting a respond on how to eliminate reverse on the esc, never mind I have the boat since December that is just unacceptable as far as I'm concerned. Thanks to forums like this is how i got my answers and NOT by the manufacture.

[RCBoaterGuy]

Hey Pedro...
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you say in an earlier post that you had figured out how program the ESC with the HobbyWing program box??

If yes, change item#1 from 2 to 1 --- see attached --- 2 is forward & reverse, 1 is forward only.

If you need further assistance, please ask...

ok guys, I agree with Darin Jordan, this new hull that now I had it for a while now, i don't experience wa-wa-wa on flat or choppy waters, on 4s or 6s, believe it or not it still has the stock hardware setup, I did not move it a lil bit. I just position my batteries all the way to the front and presto.
Regarding Mr Rafael Lopez, welcome to the forum, my only suggestion to you is to work on customer service response. till this date I'm waiting a respond on how to eliminate reverse on the esc, never mind I have the boat since December that is just unacceptable as far as I'm concerned. Thanks to forums like this is how i got my answers and NOT by the manufacture.

[Pedro Ramos]

thanks to you guys is all done!!!

Hey Pedro...
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you say in an earlier post that you had figured out how program the ESC with the HobbyWing program box??

If yes, change item#1 from 2 to 1 --- see attached --- 2 is forward & reverse, 1 is forward only.

If you need further assistance, please ask...

[RCBoaterGuy]

Guess that means it worked...

thanks to you guys is all done!!!

[Mr_3_0_5]

You guys can say this new hull doesn't do the wa wa wa but I assure you it does. that is what made me search this topic and find this forum to begin with. I have not tried with the packs all the way foward and will try that tomorrow
Everywhere I read it says that makes the bounce worse. Can anyone answer the CG question?

[Buddyroe]

You guys can say this new hull doesn't do the wa wa wa but I assure you it does. that is what made me search this topic and find this forum to begin with. I have not tried with the packs all the way foward and will try that tomorrow
Everywhere I read it says that makes the bounce worse. Can anyone answer the CG question?

Mine don't. Pacs all the way back. It did a lil when they where forward.

[iop65]

without telling this guy the position off the strut , and even better posting pictures , it is completely useless to tell him where to put the packs

[Buddyroe]

without telling this guy the position off the strut , and even better posting pictures , it is completely useless to tell him where to put the packs

Strut bottom .125" above

[iop65]

angle?

[T.S.Davis]

Maybe I missed it but is the canopy of a thicker construction than the last version? The old one would disintegrate if you stuffed it just right.

[ray schrauwen]

Yes, its a better canopy, fiberglass to boot. I use a Tiqueman FG hatch on my geico for a few years now.