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  • 04deezelram
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 14

    #1

    Newbie!!..got some questions for yall!!

    Ok guys im new to rc boat, and i got an apache for a good deal...so i gutted it and put fiberglass to reinforce the hull...im wanting to go brushless and ill be using 2 EP4500 6 Cell 7.2volt NiMh Sub C Pack in parallel...i also have a prop from a bruhless blackjack which is 1.6" x 2.5".....not sure what kv motor i should get??
    Pro Boat Apache....gutted and glassed...looking for a brushless motor..any ideas??
  • tiqueman
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Jul 2009
    • 5669

    #2
    Welcome to the forum!

    Im not real familiar w/ the Brushed Apache. I do have the Black Jack. The stock motor in that is about a 1500KV. I recon that would be a god starting point for you. But go to Lipos asap.

    Hobbycity.com = stupid deals on lipos

    -Scott
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    • 04deezelram
      Junior Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 14

      #3
      Originally posted by tiqueman View Post
      Welcome to the forum!

      Im not real familiar w/ the Brushed Apache. I do have the Black Jack. The stock motor in that is about a 1500KV. I recon that would be a god starting point for you. But go to Lipos asap.

      Hobbycity.com = stupid deals on lipos

      -Scott
      ok thanks for the website.....what kind of lipos are good...not sure what discharge or mah?...sorry new to the lipo battery
      Pro Boat Apache....gutted and glassed...looking for a brushless motor..any ideas??

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      • tiqueman
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Jul 2009
        • 5669

        #4
        You want a minimum of a 20C. If you can afford it, go 30 or even more. Batteries will stress a lot less. As for mah, in a parallel set up, minimum of maybe 5000 total would be a great start. So 2, 2500s or so. Or if you wanna go and can fit more, go more. Some guys run up to 10k mah. I havent seen it personally. I have seen 8k. Gives a good run time w/ a lot of punch. Just remember, boats stress out equipment a lot more. So coming from planes or cars etc, the amp draw is much much less. Boat equipment gets hot. Whatever you do, check temps often especially on its first couple runs.

        Oh and the Turnigys are fantastic. Lots of people are having much success w/ them. Ive got several of my own...
        Geico epoxy laminate hatch sale thread Black Jack epoxy laminate hatch sale thread
        HPR06 6S Twin HOTR Genesis (SOLD) Vantex 32" cat Geico racing
        WEST FL MODEL BOAT CLUB www.scottskiracing.com

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        • Diesel6401
          Memento Vivere
          • Oct 2009
          • 4203

          #5
          For lipos's 25c and higher good place to start, I myself try and run 30c and up. Not sure if the BJ prop is going to work for you. I think, but maybe wrong that the bj is 3/16 drive and the apache is 1/8 drive. Not 100% sure on that. If im right you may need this http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...?prod=ose-1035 Also I don't think that hull can handle much over 25mph once again I may be wrong ( and ususally am lol) on that.

          If am not mistaken its a tight fit for batteries in that boat and I have one laying around my garage (a friends) and I think my tenergy lipos where all that fit because they were shorter and thinner than any turnigy or zippy i have.

          Make sure you have a charger that can charge lipo's and also read this before you start. http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...ad.php?t=12020

          Welcome

          yea like tiqueman said turnigy's and zippys are the $**t, i run a crap load of them myself.
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          - Diesel's Fleet
          "It is easier to be wise for others than for ourselves"

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          • tiqueman
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Jul 2009
            • 5669

            #6
            [QUOTE=Diesel6401;173388]For lipos's 25c and higher good place to start, I myself try and run 30c and up. Not sure if the BJ prop is going to work for you. I think, but maybe wrong that the bj is 3/16 drive and the apache is 1/8 drive. Not 100% sure on that. If im right you may need this http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...?prod=ose-1035

            QUOTE]

            I know the BJ is not a 3/16 shaft... a 3/16 prop on it does need a sleeve. Not sure if its 4mm or 1/8... cant remember

            And Diesel... putting words in my mounth they are the $**t
            Geico epoxy laminate hatch sale thread Black Jack epoxy laminate hatch sale thread
            HPR06 6S Twin HOTR Genesis (SOLD) Vantex 32" cat Geico racing
            WEST FL MODEL BOAT CLUB www.scottskiracing.com

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            • 04deezelram
              Junior Member
              • Apr 2010
              • 14

              #7
              Thanks diesel for the link...it answered most of my questions....pic to follow tomorrow
              Pro Boat Apache....gutted and glassed...looking for a brushless motor..any ideas??

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              • 04deezelram
                Junior Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 14

                #8
                QUOTE]

                I know the BJ is not a 3/16 shaft... a 3/16 prop on it does need a sleeve. Not sure if its 4mm or 1/8... cant remember

                And Diesel... putting words in my mounth they are the $**t [/QUOTE]

                I have actually used the BJ prop on my boat when i had the brushed motor in it...it came with a brass sleeve and seems to work
                Pro Boat Apache....gutted and glassed...looking for a brushless motor..any ideas??

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                • Diesel6401
                  Memento Vivere
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 4203

                  #9
                  Originally posted by 04deezelram View Post
                  Thanks diesel for the link...it answered most of my questions....pic to follow tomorrow
                  Glad to help. Lot's of good info on this site and good people like tiqueman
                  - Diesel's Youtube
                  - Diesel's Fleet
                  "It is easier to be wise for others than for ourselves"

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                  • Diesel6401
                    Memento Vivere
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 4203

                    #10
                    I remember I put my Rio Ep prop 40mm or 42mm 1/8 drive on my friends Apache and it was a bat outta hell out of the gate until the motor blew
                    - Diesel's Youtube
                    - Diesel's Fleet
                    "It is easier to be wise for others than for ourselves"

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                    • 04deezelram
                      Junior Member
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 14

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Diesel6401 View Post
                      I remember I put my Rio Ep prop 40mm or 42mm 1/8 drive on my friends Apache and it was a bat outta hell out of the gate until the motor blew
                      Was that on the stock apache drive??
                      Pro Boat Apache....gutted and glassed...looking for a brushless motor..any ideas??

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                      • Diesel6401
                        Memento Vivere
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 4203

                        #12
                        Originally posted by 04deezelram View Post
                        Was that on the stock apache drive??
                        Yea it was stock. I was right when I got into boating and had NO CLUE what I was doing (still don't have a clue lol) and blew the motor. O I also almost sunk it.
                        - Diesel's Youtube
                        - Diesel's Fleet
                        "It is easier to be wise for others than for ourselves"

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                        • tiqueman
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 5669

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Diesel6401 View Post
                          Glad to help. Lot's of good info on this site and good people like tiqueman
                          Awwwww Diesel.... Im gettin all choked up

                          Yes there are many, MANY great people on here. Best forum to belong to.
                          Geico epoxy laminate hatch sale thread Black Jack epoxy laminate hatch sale thread
                          HPR06 6S Twin HOTR Genesis (SOLD) Vantex 32" cat Geico racing
                          WEST FL MODEL BOAT CLUB www.scottskiracing.com

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                          • Diesel6401
                            Memento Vivere
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 4203

                            #14
                            Originally posted by tiqueman View Post
                            Awwwww Diesel.... Im gettin all choked up

                            Yes there are many, MANY great people on here. Best forum to belong to.
                            HAHAHAHAHA
                            - Diesel's Youtube
                            - Diesel's Fleet
                            "It is easier to be wise for others than for ourselves"

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                            • 04deezelram
                              Junior Member
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 14

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Diesel6401 View Post
                              I remember I put my Rio Ep prop 40mm or 42mm 1/8 drive on my friends Apache and it was a bat outta hell out of the gate until the motor blew
                              Haha sounds like something I would do....anybody know what kv would be good for my boat....I'm looking at the feigo 540l
                              Pro Boat Apache....gutted and glassed...looking for a brushless motor..any ideas??

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