I need to replace both ESC's . What to replace them with?

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  • vinnyp
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2017
    • 283

    #1

    I need to replace both ESC's . What to replace them with?

    I am still on the learning curve with this hobby. Today, I found out that the electronics in my Zelos 36 are not as water proof as I thought. I should have known better.
    As we know, from time to time, some water gets into these boats. I have been very diligent to clean up and spray everything down with WD40. However, what I failed to realize is that on the heavy gauge power leads going to the ESC's, there are 2 caps that are wrapped in shrink wrap. They are not sealed very well. Over the short time that I have run this boat, water spray got in there and wiped out the caps and the bases they are attached to, shorting them out. On one of the ESC's, the small gauge wires coming from the power switch , burned up and melted together.
    I need to replace them both. This time, I have to come up with a way to fully waterproof them. I will come up with something to do so.
    I looked at a bunch of posts where you guys have upgraded your ESC's. Turnigy, Castle, SeaKing to name some. As my stock ones are now junk, my intentions are to upgrade them, so in the future, I can upgrade the motors without having to get new ESC's again. If I don't go with the stock ESC's, how do I program the new ones? Would it be the same as stock ?
    Any recommendations?
    Last edited by vinnyp; 07-21-2017, 08:12 PM.
  • Bp9145
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Jan 2016
    • 1466

    #2
    First what kind of ESC do you have and from what boat so that we may know what "stock" ESC you are speaking of. As for your damaged ESC they may still be salvageable or repairable by replacing the damaged caps. As for waterproofing, you can use Corrosion X, red can, as many of us use it but there are other products such as WD40 and such. Also, even though you have waterproofed the electronics and other metal parts, you must always flush everything with fresh water after every run. Some also use a mild soap in addition to wash the saltwater out.

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    • vinnyp
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2017
      • 283

      #3
      You are right, I should have stated I am running a stock Zelos 36, Dynamite 3876 ESC's
      Last edited by vinnyp; 07-21-2017, 08:13 PM.

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      • CraigP
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • May 2017
        • 1464

        #4
        That salt is so hard on the aluminum! That's a tough battle there...

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        • ray schrauwen
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Apr 2007
          • 9438

          #5
          If a Raider 150 esc is strong enough then you don't have to water proof it. It is sealed.
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          • vinnyp
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2017
            • 283

            #6
            Did some research. I am leaning towards SeaKing 180.

            Along with their programing card.

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            • Erroneous
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2016
              • 451

              #7
              Shoot for the Turnigy 180v3. Same build but cheaper.

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              • ray schrauwen
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Apr 2007
                • 9438

                #8
                Yes but it's always good to support the website vendor as well.
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                • Bp9145
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Jan 2016
                  • 1466

                  #9
                  Vinny, have you thought of repairing the stock escs themselves if they are repairable? Then if you decide to go that route you can actually put as many capbanks on the esc making it more efficient and will run cooler. As you know many of us add extra capbanks on our escs. . .this will save you money and all it will take is for you to solder the cap banks. And as for protecting the electronics, hardware and other metal parts, do you apply your WD40 when the surface are dry? Make sure after every run you flush and clean all the parts that need to be protected and dry it before you apply WD40 or Corrosion X because it will adhere better. You can speed the drying process by a drying everything with a hairdryer then when dry apply the stuff and if you can reapply. Eventually, after every coat you put on it will adhere much better and will last longer. If you do decide on the Raider 150A or the Turnigy 180A they both are a great and inexpensive upgrade that will work with your current motors. If you set it up right, your stock motors and either the escs you are deciding on, you can achieve 70mph+. .however, if you want to go much faster like close to 100mph or more you might consider reinforcing the hull first before you put in your upgrades. . .and Ray is right it's good to support your website vendors. Afterall, without their forums like OSE or RCG . .it would take us much longer to learn things about our hobby.

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                  • vinnyp
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2017
                    • 283

                    #10
                    Thanks to all for the information. I do clean up the boat well after each use. Everything gets coated with WD40 as well as squirting it into the water cooling lines. I thought the cap banks were completely sealed under that shrink wrap. I guess when Horizon claims waterproof electronics, they only mean the actual ESC.
                    I talked to Horizon yesterday. I called to find out if they sold new power leads with the cap banks on them already. Seems they don't. However, the tech I spoke to said this should not have happened , at least not so soon. The boat is only 3 months old. He said they may warranty me 2 new ESC's. That would be awesome!!! Talk about great customer service.
                    If not, I may look into repairing 1 of the ESC's. The other is junk. If it is repairable, I would buy 1 new stock ESC and be done with this. My last choice will be to buy 2 new Turnigy 180's. Looks like that may be the best choice for me.
                    On one of the ESC's , along with burning the caps on the power leads, the wires coming from the on/off switch burned up all the way down to the base of the ESC. Also, the caps on the ESC swelled up. That one is junk. The other doesn't look as bad. The only thing I see are the caps and the small circuit board on the power leads burned up. Can anyone suggest a repair?
                    Strange how both decided they had enough at the same time. Boat was running around fine, then quit. Pulled the hatch and found smoke coming off the caps on both sides.
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                    • Bp9145
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Jan 2016
                      • 1466

                      #11
                      I'm so glad that HH might warranty those escs. . .great customer service indeed. When you get the replacements then you can decide to run those or get a couple of t180s. . . .good to hear with the warranty!

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                      • Mxkid261
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2015
                        • 734

                        #12
                        The t180 caps are also only shrink wrapped like those on the dynamite esc's. Ive never had an issue though and all my controllers have got atleast somewhat wet at one point in time. You could also look at Steve's raider 150 controllers, very good option also.

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                        • ray schrauwen
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9438

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ray schrauwen View Post
                          If a Raider 150 esc is strong enough then you don't have to water proof it. It is sealed.
                          Originally posted by Mxkid261 View Post
                          The t180 caps are also only shrink wrapped like those on the dynamite esc's. Ive never had an issue though and all my controllers have got atleast somewhat wet at one point in time. You could also look at Steve's raider 150 controllers, very good option also.
                          Tried....
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                          • mikiek
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2017
                            • 191

                            #14
                            Hey Vinny - I am building my first rig and finally starting to get a look at components other than what's in the Zelos. I was going to use a Raider 150 in my build but the thing is really big - at last relative the ESCs in the Zelos. Space on the back of the tray is at a premium. Without doing some modding for the mounts, some ESCs just won't fit. If you decide to get another type pay close attention to the size.
                            May your batteries never fail you...

                            Mike

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                            • vinnyp
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2017
                              • 283

                              #15
                              Thanks Mike...
                              Still waiting on word from Horizon...

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