*** NEW *** Pro Boat Veles 29 Catamaran

[Mxkid261]

Nice 4s run! I have a handful of smc packs they're great, have had them going on 2 years.

[Mxkid261]

I ran the boat today on 4s and got 57mph. More details on the "Veles fast list" thread if anyone is interested. Thanks to Chris for the custom ABC!


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There's a member here jpriami that runs in the same location you do I think. Havent seen him on here in a while though, I know he got a 36 zelos when they first hit the shelves. Looks the same and he's from TN

[fweasel]

Vinny does it again with another cool adjustment tool. FWIW, the strut and mount interface on the Veles is nearly identical to the 29 V3 cats. I use a scribe to etch lines in the strut where it sticks above the horizontal mount at my different settings.

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[MADRCER]

Nice 4s run! I have a handful of smc packs they're great, have had them going on 2 years.

There's a member here jpriami that runs in the same location you do I think. Havent seen him on here in a while though, I know he got a 36 zelos when they first hit the shelves. Looks the same and he's from TN

Thanks!

Yes, This is one of the lakes that Justin has ran at in the past. I haven't seen or heard of him running at either of the two lakes since the "Geese" runs a year and a half or so ago at the other lake.

[vinnyp]

Vinny does it again with another cool adjustment tool. FWIW, the strut and mount interface on the Veles is nearly identical to the 29 V3 cats. I use a scribe to etch lines in the strut where it sticks above the horizontal mount at my different settings.

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That's a cool idea. That would make it easy to make changes in the field.

[Rafael_Lopez]

I ran the boat today on 4s and got 57mph. More details on the "Veles fast list" thread if anyone is interested. Thanks to Chris for the custom ABC!


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Good run! That's the fastest I've seen on 4s. What size props is that?

[MADRCER]

Good run! That's the fastest I've seen on 4s. What size props is that?

Thanks Rafael! That prop was a 1816. I tried to run it pretty hard almost through most of the run to check the temps and they seemed to be held in check. The ESC was 140° and motor 145° so I'm calling it good from my experience with the 3831.

[Rafael_Lopez]

Temps are on the border, but if you are not getting smell of epoxy from motor then you're doing OK. From what I have found, the solder will melt off the leads connecting the stater to the 12G wire before the motor burns.

FYI, manufacturer says 150* is max for each.

[MADRCER]

Temps are on the border, but if you are not getting smell of epoxy from motor then you're doing OK. From what I have found, the solder will melt off the leads connecting the stater to the 12G wire before the motor burns.

FYI, manufacturer says 150* is max for each.

Good info Rafael Thanks! I'll push it a bit harder since now I know that I'm still under the manufacturers recommended max temps..LOL!

[Rafael_Lopez]

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[CraigP]

The Neo magnets start to de-guass at 160deg F, so you’re just making the motor weaker. This causes it to pull more current, which in turn makes it hotter... I would suggest keeping it below 135, because there is heat soak after the run when the water cooling stops. You can buy motors with high temp magnets, but they are pretty expensive. I think 200 degrees is the hottest that extended temp Neo mags can take...

[MADRCER]

Great information! Thanks Craig. I'm not concerned at all about the ESC temps I have been getting, but if I start seeing above 145° in this particular motor on a clean run from start to finish then I start looking to make changes. I tested my 1815 prop and it is roughly 2mph slower than my 1816 on 4s in this boat with a little lower temps but still near 140° after the same type of run. From my experience over 30-35 runs that most all were in the neighborhood of 140°-145° range performance wise I haven't had the slightest issues at all with the 3831 motors and if I can continue to get fast speed results after multiple runs as I have been able to do even with the slightly higher temps than most are accustomed to seeing out of the traditional RTR motors I will be a very happy customer. Especially since you can sometimes find these motors in the $65.00 range to purchase. If they cost $165.00 each then I would be leaning a little bit more in the direction of propping down...Lol!

[CraigP]

Those hi temp motors are $300-400! Neu has extended range. I have a question: are you taking these reported temps off a data logger during the run or after the run? If after, these are pretty typical. I have a shore cooler to keep it from heat soaking too high. I found that to be the trick, still allows me to use cheaper Leopard motors and not degrade them on hard runs. I’m not racing, but still the same, I run very hard.

[MADRCER]

My Temps are taken right after the runs.

[CraigP]

I think it’s about right... My data logger shows the motor temp sky rockets, as I’m idling in... Ive started taking a few cool down laps after really legging it, or should I say fingering it! So you’re seeing max temps, but not while the motor is running. The windings are usually hotter than the magnets, about 10 degrees typical.