** New Zelos 48 Brushless Large Scale Cat From Pro Boat**

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  • 704Authentic
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 178

    #16
    Great!
    AquaCraft UL-1 59mph.
    Motley Crew 61mph.
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    • gfmarlin88
      Junior Member
      • Sep 2015
      • 9

      #17
      I'm interested in future purchase of this craft. I'm concerned with how available parts will be though. I'm currently waiting over a month for a canopy for my voracity (went submarine and folded it in half first run out). I was told they'd be available by mid-end September and now we're here and still no eta.

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      • Rafael_Lopez
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2015
        • 470

        #18
        Originally posted by gfmarlin88 View Post
        I'm interested in future purchase of this craft. I'm concerned with how available parts will be though. I'm currently waiting over a month for a canopy for my voracity (went submarine and folded it in half first run out). I was told they'd be available by mid-end September and now we're here and still no eta.
        Whatever the excuse is for not having them yet, it doesn't make your situation better. Do you still have your damaged canopy? If so, I can send you a canopy from one of my sample boats that will allow you to end the Boat season. At least this way you can continue running.

        It has no lock or pins. You'd have to make sure you tape very well, or you can pull the pins and lock off your old one. PM me if you're interested in having me send this to you.
        Last edited by Rafael_Lopez; 09-25-2015, 05:51 PM.
        Rafael Lopez
        Product Developer-Pro Boat
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        • rw442
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2013
          • 121

          #19
          Rafael that is the best customer service i have ever heard just wanted to let you know that.

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          • Rafael_Lopez
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2015
            • 470

            #20
            Rw442, Thank you. Good products sell themselves. Good customer support creates life long customers.

            We have several Core Values. My favorite is: "Respect.-We are humble and treat others the way we should like to be treated."

            I do no more than what I'd expect any company do for me.
            Rafael Lopez
            Product Developer-Pro Boat
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            • pistol18
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2012
              • 248

              #21
              [QUOTE=Rafael_Lopez;643454] If so, I can send you a canopy from one of my sample boats that will allow you to end the Boat season. At least this way you can continue running.


              That is an awesome gesture! Zelos looks great, I've got some large gas cats and monos but have always wanted a big FE cat!!

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              • ray schrauwen
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Apr 2007
                • 9438

                #22
                Why didn't they put the strut on the transom?
                Nortavlag Bulc

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                • Rafael_Lopez
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2015
                  • 470

                  #23
                  Long winded answer. Grab some popcorn, lol.

                  The first boat did have the strut on the transom. We all know the strut is an extension of the hull. It can either hurt or help the attitude, if the boat carries enough weight to reap the benefits. The original hull, which Darin now has, had a sized up version of the 29" cat hardware. Beautiful hardware. The boat bounced horribly, and grabbing more than 1/2 throttle was impossible without it flipping backwards. The unwritten rules say that it you need more than 4* of negative to keep the nose down, you have a set up problem. Well what I had was a boat that needed at least 3 more pounds of weight to keep the nose down, with that gear. This presented a problem with the cost of the hull. Yes, it would have been bulletproof, but far too heavy. requiring more than a 160a ESC.

                  Placing the strut in the same location as the Rockstar 48 lifts the transom, allowing the boat's attitude to be more predictable to CG changes. It no longer blew over backwards over 1/2 throttle. I've had it as high as 62 mph on 8s. With this strut there is no real positive angle adjustment, because the boat doesn't need it. It does however react well to the, up to, 2 degrees to negative angle the strut allows. It weights around 16 pounds with no batteries. It's the same thickness hull as the Rockstar 48, but is much lighter because of the difference in the power train.

                  Hope that helps explain why.

                  If it were a narrower hull all this wouldn't have presented such a problem during development, but then again, it wouldn't handle as well as it does. Just like the 29" hull, full throttle turns around the buoy are no problem. Our hulls tend to "drift" around corners at WOT, rather than hook, and roll. I mention this because a wide tunnel hull will have more lift, by design, which is what I was fighting during development with the strut on the back.

                  If the boat does well and it eventually needs to revamp, I will experiment with square bottom struts which provide more lift and act kind of like a trim tab. Worst case, I'll square off the bottom of this strut, as a running change, and call it good.
                  Last edited by Rafael_Lopez; 09-26-2015, 06:52 PM.
                  Rafael Lopez
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                  • Brushless55
                    Creator
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 9479

                    #24
                    Great job Rafael !
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                    • Doby
                      KANADA RULES!
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 7277

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Rafael_Lopez View Post
                      Our hulls tend to "drift" around corners at WOT, rather than hook, and roll. .
                      I was running a FE Rockstar 48 conversion today and it certainly "drifts" around the corners...takes some getting used to at first.
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                      • paulfromtulsa
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2013
                        • 211

                        #26
                        Rafael i have a friend with the rockstar boat that wants to trade me hulls when the zelos comes in. Will the electric and gas stuff swap Pretty easily?

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                        • ray schrauwen
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9438

                          #27
                          Interesting, thank you for the answer Rafael!
                          Nortavlag Bulc

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                          • arrover
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2015
                            • 322

                            #28
                            Rafael, what size flex is in the Zelos? What size prop shaft?
                            ProBoat Zelos 36 Twin, Voracity 36, Impulse 31, Stealthwake 23, and HobbyKing Flowmaster Videos

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                            • Rafael_Lopez
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2015
                              • 470

                              #29
                              1/4 flex with prop shaft machined down to 3/16; strut is 1/4" prop shaft stub is 3/16". I decided to go this route because most 1/4" props are way too much for this boat. The motor would have been 1/2 the KV powered by 12s/+. This opened up options to a unlimited assortment of propellers and lowed me to keep voltage at 8s.
                              Rafael Lopez
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                              • Xtreme Thunder
                                Member
                                • Jan 2014
                                • 34

                                #30
                                Awesome! The Catamaran looks great! I am loving these larger offerings recently! Great work!

                                This hobby is seriously beginning to cut into my 'hot rod' restoration allocated funds! Haha!

                                So, Rafael,... any comment on a 48" Deep V based on the Voracity?! I am extremely impressed with the 36" hull, but a 48" offering would be able to handle some pretty serious chop! Seems as though, for me anyway, the R/C boat season is pretty much over, and I am itching to get the Voracity back on the water!

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