Adjustable propeller pitch for surface pising propeller

[Ch.Lucas]

Hi,
you have never run a competition and you can not understand how effifcancy plays for the winner . So i have this know how and my pool is 2000 meter long , you know the Munich SAW Regatta rowing station is just 15 Minutes from me and my brother in law , my sisters husband is the director of the town Munich and he is the highest offical who can say what can happen on this high speed stadion. And i have all rights to run my boats on this spezial lake. And every year we let the Munich SAW happen . I want J?rg Fink the current SAW manager to become the head for the rowing stadion , you can aske him. We have a very good relationship. Also you can aske Tyler , he knows J?rg Fink.

And no you van not do it with a full size Arneson drive as the drive has a skeg , only the drive you show is the modelboat arneson drive Hydro& Marine sells that has not skeg. So you show that you have never seen a 1:1 Arneson drive . I have visite Arneson drive company personaly and i have visite John Broadbeck from Circus Circus Hotel in Las Vegas. i will serach the photo from him i shot with his pink collered K&B Outbord modelraceboat motor. He was a fan of modelboat racing.

Happy Amps Christian

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Ask Tyler about who you know for what? Jorg Fink and Him have nothing to explain how this works and how well. But without going to a meet I can see if a boat is fast if it actually runs. Its hasn't won any meets and is not faster than the simple thai boat so whats the relevance? A pool you own 2000 meters long Impressive!!! What did you learn in your trip to a casino in vegas about the technical aspects of Ron Jones's boat? Yes amazed you are that the arneson I post is for a model boat from MHZ . But why thats the topic did you forget? Eureka! You cant put an aluminum and bronze full size Arneson drive from a real boat on an rc Christian an adding a skeg is very easy. After its done it will not fall apart like a plastic toy drive will every time.

Is the great innovation here a skeg then but theyve always been here too.



For me the thai boat may actually be one of the most impressive things Ive seen in a long time. The effort was minimal for speeds you relish in with brushed motors. They didnt need the BLDC machine to run fast or a bunch of fragile complication. In my humble opinion it a better idea that will give loads of fun and not headaches making you leave model baoting forever.

Certainly if you ran the boat it has a deck. Can you share photos of the completed boat with the deck on? Im sure the gang would like to see how it finished out.


Regards ,
Hubert

[Ch.Lucas]

Hi,
you still don't understand that such a drive has advantages. It was no different with the external rotor motor. In 1998 I offered the external rotor motor concept to 6 model motor manufacturers and they all rejected it at the time and continued to produce internal rotor with gear. Today, the outrunners are the best-selling model engines worldwide. The boat is just a demonstrator that it is possible, nothing more. who will use such a drive and how is left to everyone. Just like the outrunner that I developed not only for world speed record fliers, but for everyone how they want to use it.

This is not the only forum here and I don't care whether someone is interested or not.You want only make everything bad , that is you intension. Very mad from you .

Happy Amps Christian

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I undestand anything you can but Where is the advantage im to see in a boat that hasnt done anythin in competition or even a video running? Im not mad about anything but asked do you have photos of the complete boat? You said you ran it so Im asking if we cant see it run can we at least see it? You gotta have a deck if you ran it. I dont see innovation in something that already existed being re visited in plastic. You dont care about the forum but you came here on your own accord whats the problem now? It seems youre the only one mad here because I show you not need such complication for a modeler to have a fast boat. You just cant see any other innovations but your own or something from over there. U have no answer why it is faster if they have no know how. You said it but "I" make it all bad when I say match it then. Its all good nevermind. The motors work this plastic drive will not for a boat with any real power. it is a toy drive. Plus this already exsit so it isnt like an outrunner and you will recieve no patent there is no innovation in reposting something that already exist.

Regards
Hubert

[eXoNerated]

Also Christian,
An Arneson drive will also not make the tight corner as a traditional boat with a rudder especially at lower speeds That's a disadvantage at a race course that counters its benefit. It makes wider radius turns. The entire purpose of a real areneson was it durability with no bevel gears as compared to a bravo. Making one plastic is truly counter intuitive and puts a a foot right in the mouth of its true purpose which is less drive train drag,ease of maintenance, and durability for big HP. If you bring up the real arneson I can go there. It's hardly "bad". I just know the right questions to ask and points to make versus standing in awe like you would expect. Example You also spoke nothing about the running attitude of the boat while you're doing all these wonderful manipulations on the business end. Added pitch + no handling does not equal a win it equals a boat all over the place and probably blown over. If you add the rudder then you just got increasingly more underwater drag in addition to the drives ..... losing more speed. The graupner drives are not new so still again no innovation (new things) if a million already buy years ago . And while I was a fan of the Graupner line of fe boats they are dated now and ran with brushed toy power just larger than Thai's. Those boats were extremely low powered as compared to todays FE with the smallest motors delivering nearly a hp. U spoke of elaborate esc and controllers and such but you dont show any of that and the drive doesnt even have servos connected to it to show us the range of motion. Is this all you got on it Christian? all u need is one mcu to do all these things you just cannot code is the problem huh? The code is out there on the right forum its just a scalable directive between the memsic polling angle and pulse width of the servo drive within the MCU.
Since you say I know nothing ill let you search for it on your own.

Regards
Hubert

[Peter A]

This is like a pissing contest! Honestly it achieves nothing. Test the idea see if it really works, even just the heck of it. Arguing about this and that is a waste of time and energy!

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That all I want is finally a test on some of these ideas. Ive looked at this and alot of other things for a long time now Peter. Im not the only one on forums ready to see some of it. You know yourself that drive isnt going to hold much at today power. It def has to make wider turns like any other arneson and who can control it really in the heat of a race.These are all fair questions of this posted tech. No match. And I still dont see how its new or innovative if Graupners been selling it since the early 90's he says it works and it runs but does it honestly look complete and if it is why not give us what you just asked for? Certainly also the attitude of the boat will change so why not ask how that affects thing from its creator. Its all fair these questions or how do we kmnow it works or is innovative. I see issues with it so Im just stating that. Wheneven i ask a question I dumb and dont know much but these are great poits and chris just doesnt wann deal with that.

Regards
Hubert.

[Dr. Jet]

This is like a pissing contest! Honestly it achieves nothing. Test the idea see if it really works, even just the heck of it. Arguing about this and that is a waste of time and energy!

My sentiments exactly. However, I think it's like the wrestling a pig in the mud joke: Sooner or later, you realize the pig is enjoying it. I think they like yanking each other's chains because they enjoy it.

Enough talk; put it on the water and see what happens. "Theory" and "Real World" aren't always the same thing.

[eXoNerated]

My sentiments exactly. However, I think it's like the wrestling a pig in the mud joke: Sooner or later, you realize the pig is enjoying it. I think they like yanking each other's chains because they enjoy it.

Enough talk; put it on the water and see what happens. "Theory" and "Real World" aren't always the same thing.

You yanking chains now too coz you just made the same request I have for pages now. You dont have to call us pigs either him or I so please no name calling. . I dont like anything so please speak for yourself but if I see something I will ask. Its not groundbreaking Its what forums are for You post something and there will be a discussion about it if it isnt then no one found it interesting. I have nothing to do with the initiation of ad hominem by Christian to prove his technical theory when I bring a point. Even though you just did the same thing over dataloging in ur own thread u can act better than and Ask him why he comes here and goes 0 to 100 for an audience just like that after 7 yearz of friendship He has to be wrong .What friend does that?? Hes even brought my mother and father into his public rants . He dont 3ven know my mother or father.. It is there way over there to argue and back stab constantly so his training to act like this in times of trouble is at its maximum coming from the hostile environment he dwells in. Its toxic so he cannot be be rebriefed at this time and maybe ever so u have to ask him why he needs to paint a light that everyone is dumb unless the are from over there somewhere u can see not even Ron Jones Jr. can touch him. He needs Fabio some one from over there where he's from. Screw American designers? No I wont. Id say thats a bit excessive for the scale guys here to hear him say this about someone we all respect in U1 and expecting us to buddy up to the a soviet invention piggy backed of Howard Hughes work. It is insane and proves he doesn't quite no where he is or the state of the international community I've no love for the soviet union currently plotting to kill our boys. Thats another topic but I do plan to ask each time to see it work... his genius. Thats fair after almost 10 years . One things for sure I don't want crap from the Russian military . We lead so I can marvel in what we do right here in the U S OF A. He feels 156 mph is something u boat designers are in awe of and that's so far from the truth.


Regards
Hubert

[1coopgt]

This is like a pissing contest! Honestly it achieves nothing. Test the idea see if it really works, even just the heck of it. Arguing about this and that is a waste of time and energy!

The 2 of them seem to like trolling each other. It's getting old quick .They follow each other through the forums bitching at each other like an old couple.

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AND anytime this man has been attacked like he just did me I came to his aid pronto and backed his statement with photograph of the academic side of things and posted the motors. So why would he do this here and then this on helifreaks?

"Mr. Okon has never noticed how to use such motorplates and high powerdens motors as he has no clue about motordesign. That he is allways following this tread by Hubert show his interest in Huberts coil design. That he say that it makes no sense is od and show how he is unable. Hey, let a Scorpion 4025 Motor that has a kv of 460 run at 35volt and 100 ampere = 3500 watt input power till it will reach 100 degree rotorbell temperature (need some minute) and Selead all the cooling holes, that is important to see the loss power and not how the cooling fan is working. In the same runtime a similar sized motor with the coils like Hubert wind his motor reach only 50 degree. This is a segnificant improvment of efficiency for this coil arrangement. Hubert has done and it is cool"

~Christian Lucas~

See what Im saying HE"S TRIPPIN I guess Tylers speed just took him away just like that. See dogged me out. see how it is???? but its always me......that's what it is then.

But hes right I gotta be stupid because I don't know who my real friends are. Its also quite obvious I know absolutely nothing about a remote controlled boat.

I can live with this, wont post any more in his thread and go work on my "spruce and glue" coz allz I have left is my pride and my word.

Regards
Hubert