What Makes a GREAT hull????

[Diegoboy]

First,
What class is this proposed hull expected to participate in?

Class / Maximum Length
M-2 N/A
N-1 N/A
N-2 27”
O 27”
P 34”
Q 40”
S 60”
T 60”

[Ub Hauled]

I think it should not go over "P" specs... it becomes too expensive for most...
The idea of having an N2 cat is great but where/how are we going to run it?
Maybe we should design it for LSO specs.

What do you think?

[Flying Scotsman]

I think it should not go over "P" specs... it becomes too expensive for most...
The idea of having an N2 cat is great but where/how are we going to run it?
Maybe we should design it for LSO specs.

What do you think?

Agreed

Douggie

[Diegoboy]

Okay,
Minimum 25" long
Do we stay with 30" range or go about 27-28"?

[Darin Jordan]

I think as things have evolved, we have affordable power that can push a P-Sized hull to decent, even excellent performance...

What is missing on the market at the moment are P-Sized Sport Hydros and Cat hulls that push the P-length restrictions... Most cats of this size are either just under 30", or over 36"...

If you are doing a Cat design, then I'd make it 33-34".

LSO is another good target to shoot for... These can be in the 30-32" range, in my opinion, IF the rules change to use the SV27 or BJ26 style motor packages... I think this size might be pushing it with a 700 motor.

I'd like to see a GOOD handling (not just fast, but turns very well) Cat design in the 32-34" range...

[Diegoboy]

Thank you for the input Darin! Good info.

[Flying Scotsman]

I think as things have evolved, we have affordable power that can push a P-Sized hull to decent, even excellent performance...

What is missing on the market at the moment are P-Sized Sport Hydros and Cat hulls that push the P-length restrictions... Most cats of this size are either just under 30", or over 36"...

If you are doing a Cat design, then I'd make it 33-34".

LSO is another good target to shoot for... These can be in the 30-32" range, in my opinion, IF the rules change to use the SV27 or BJ26 style motor packages... I think this size might be pushing it with a 700 motor.

I'd like to see a GOOD handling (not just fast, but turns very well) Cat design in the 32-34" range...

Well said, but we do not need another rules discussion over length of each class. Leave it as it is, for the mean time

Douggie

[C.Smock]

Id shoot for a hull that fits IMPBA as well as NAMBA... Broaden the market...

[C.Smock]

Well said, but we do not need another rules discussion over length of each class. Leave it as it is, for the mean time

Douggie

[Ub Hauled]

Casey, what are the specs for "P" and LSO as far as IMPBA goes?

[Darin Jordan]

Casey, what are the specs for "P" and LSO as far as IMPBA goes?

WHO said anything about a "rules discussion"??? I said "IF the rules change to allow the SV27/BJ26 motors", then 30-32" would work for LSO... followed up by saying I think that those lengths would be too long for a 700 setup... Hardly a "rule length" discussion... Don't read more into it than is there...

Jan, both IMPBA and NAMBA have 34" Limits on P. I don't think there is an upper limit on LSO, but I could be mistaken. LSO has a minimum, however, of 25", and I believe there is a practical limit as to how large an LSO could effectively be...

[C.Smock]

up to 34" in P and im not sure about LSO..

[Flying Scotsman]

Darin, cool the jets. My point was that once you open up rule changes on any aspect of a rated formula. The discourse tends to get nasty.

Douggie

[Darin Jordan]

My point was that once you open up rule changes on any aspect of a rated formula. The discourse tends to get nasty.

Douggie

That's fine... I'll keep that in mind if I ever decide to open that can of worms... In the meantime, just assume that I am having NOTHING to do with rule changes and am just passing along information and ideas to try to be helpful and provide food for thought...




MOST clubs around the country are already using the BL power systems for LSH and LSO, as we did at the 2008 Nats... so when considering a target market, one should keep this in mind. One can also naturally assume that this trend will continue, and eventually be the way of things, so if I were designing a new hull for the market, I'd keep these facts in mind.

A CAT to fit in the 30"-34" range (Overall length) would really fill a gap in the supply of these hulls...

[Ub Hauled]

Guys, what do you say we set the size to 32" ?
That way it could play at LSO and would be a decent size for "P"...

whatcha say?