MHZ Extreme Lizard Question

[paulreedsmith]

Greetings everyone!

I've decided to build a Mhz Extreme Lizard in Martini racing livery However I have no clue about the recommended setup.

Prior to this boat, I was using Pursuit with 4074 2200 kv on 4S. I was thinking that I could use 4082 2200kv on 4s. What do you guys think?

[Flying Scotsman]

Is the hull new....what are your expectations.....If new, what hardware, if used, existing....what ESC, batteries, etc.

The Extreme Lizard is a great rough water hull.

Douggie

[paulreedsmith]

Hey Douggie!

Thanks for the reply, The hull is brand new in Carbon /Kevlar. Unfortunately I have to keep the costs down to a mimimum. I'm expecting it to be fast but not extreme.. Also I want it to be reliableand want it to use it with a single pack to keep things more simple..

So here is my list. Please let me know if you recommend something else..

Basic 180 ESC

Stinger

http://www.horracing.com/product_info.php?products_id=430

Rudder

http://www.horracing.com/product_info.php?cPath=35&products_id=64

Trim Tabs

http://www.horracing.com/product_info.php?cPath=36&products_id=924

Turn fins

http://www.horracing.com/product_info.php?cPath=38&products_id=32

Water outlet

http://www.horracing.com/product_info.php?cPath=47&products_id=177

I have also noticed that most of the guys prefer the run lower kv's with 5-6's lipos...

[Flying Scotsman]

Interesting hardware....looks good.....I am not familiar with "basic" 180 ESC, therefore no comment.....Turnigy 180 ESC is ok dependant on motor/prop combination.

I would look at a lower KV motor and 5S

What run times do you want?

Douggie

[iridebikes247]

4082 2200kv should be fine on 4s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTaM5IpOjN8

this boat runs awesome so I'd model mine after building it in most ways.

[tlandauer]

Interesting that there are no trim tabs nor turn fins in the video. I have mine with Leopard 4082 2000kv. I use a m545 prop. My hardware -stinger: http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...os-stinger-str ( the 3/16" one) Trim tabs:http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...d=ros-spdt-502, rudder:http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...d=ros-spdr-010 turnfin is similar toyours.
Love that boat!

[paulreedsmith]

Well I might be the biggest noob here on the forum when it comes to electronics:) For 4082 what kv would you advise, For 5s-6s setup?

Interesting hardware....looks good.....I am not familiar with "basic" 180 ESC, therefore no comment.....Turnigy 180 ESC is ok dependant on motor/prop combination.

I would look at a lower KV motor and 5S

What run times do you want?

Douggie

[paulreedsmith]

What speeds are you running with that setup? 4s as well?

Interesting that there are no trim tabs nor turn fins in the video. I have mine with Leopard 4082 2000kv. I use a m545 prop. My hardware -stinger: http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...os-stinger-str ( the 3/16" one) Trim tabs:http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...d=ros-spdt-502, rudder:http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...d=ros-spdr-010 turnfin is similar toyours.
Love that boat!

[tlandauer]

What speeds are you running with that setup? 4s as well?

I didnt GPS my runs, but I have a Pursuit that is GPS'd at 46.5 mph and they were runing neck to neck. I am sure that there is more if I spend the time to carefully fine tune the hardware.
I have it on 4s with Seaking 180 ESC.

[tlandauer]

I eventually got a bigger rudder ( still needs to be cut down) for the water dual pick up. For "looks" I put on these turning fins but I prefer the curved ones for running.
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[iridebikes247]

tlandauer- do you have any running video? whenever i search this boat it seems a lot of guys don't run with turn fins but I too think they would prove beneficial whats your take on this boat with and without fins?

also overall how does it run/turn? for winter I'm torn either one of these, a mhz aligator, or a mystic 113cm (have a 138 but want a real rocket).

[properchopper]

An old vid from WWIV in 2008 - The Yellow Lizard (with white temporary hatch) kicking butt on my green DF33 and Bill M's Cyber 32. IIRC we ran Neu 1515 1Y 2200 KV's on 4S2p.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVgyk5KGceo

[iridebikes247]

man that looks fun, properchopper you've got me sold on the lizard.

[tlandauer]

tlandauer- do you have any running video? whenever i search this boat it seems a lot of guys don't run with turn fins but I too think they would prove beneficial whats your take on this boat with and without fins?

also overall how does it run/turn? for winter I'm torn either one of these, a mhz aligator, or a mystic 113cm (have a 138 but want a real rocket).

Sorry, I don't have a vid of this boat running, as for the boat running w/o the tabs and fins---let me put it this way, I am surprised at how well it was doing w/o them! I want to take mine off ( turn fins) next time running and compare a little. Mine were positioned a bit too low and I suspect they were adding extra drag. My take is that for sport running it will be ok as demostrated in the vid which you linked.