Kyosho jetstream 888ve, anyone have tryed that boat?

[waterproof]

Hello.

I have looked at a boat from kyosho named jetstream 888ve with New self-recovery system allows the boat to face up in case of unexpected accidents, like the boat flipping over on its top!
Thats a nice thing to have, almost everytime im out with my rc boat i must swin after it, soon its going to be too cold to take a bath.
My local rc dealer have finaly got this boat in stock :) but no spareparts..

I cannot find so mutch info about this boat on the Google, only a couple of videos on youtube and it looks like the boat is a little more too the left in the water but that it straightens up when driving?

I cannot find so many pages with spare parts eighter to this boat.
I realy want this boat, anyone here with experiance of this boat or a boat with selv recovery system?

The boat came with deans plug, isent that to cheap plug when driving 4s?

Thanks for replays

[martin]

amainhobbies.com have spare parts for this boat, being Kyosho though very expensive for spare parts.

[Wetter]

hullo waterproof,
hey can you ask your LHS when the 900 comes out? i can not find any info other than Kyosho USA site but no mention anywhere about release date. also Infernos only i believe you have to type in model #ers. also try RC planet they have the boat.
Kyosho they are funny that way with some of their items.bought the Mad Force monster truck could not find the specs for their servo they used on it Model # but no info. this boat you have, got me back into building one from a bare hull but then saw jetstream 900 on another post and the compartments are so clean looking keep hearing how much they are but Kyosho always been alot more coin.
other parts should be compatible just have to search.
stay wet.

[waterproof]

Hello :-)

ve900 looks nice, i could ask tomorrow :)
The ve900 boat have space to two battery one on each side.
The ve888 have only room for one heavy 4s battery on the left side.
Maby that is a bad place to put the battery to the left?
Maby that explane why the bot are more to the left when is run slow or stand still in the water?

Im afraid the ve888 is to unbalance /not steady because the battery is placed all to left? Its not much space under the small hatch so its no other place to put the battery.
That is the only thing that make me unsure. The kyosho quality is good and 70km is fast enough but if the boat have bad handling or not looks like it standsflat on the ssurface when driving i think this not a good choice

[tlandauer]

@waterproof,
Self-right boats list to the port side ( left) , that is how it can self right if it flips. Under power, the torque which is generated by the spinning prop would counter react and level the hull, you will see that under full power the boat should ride straight up. To achieve the "un-balanced" state, the battery is placed on the port( left) side on purpose. There is a wet chamber which you can see by looking at the transom on the portside , this is to take water in to add more weight should the hull is flipped. The hull can never stay in a flipped state because the heavier side will go under water, now if power is applied, the torque I mentioned earlier is your friend, it will level out your boat and off you go again. Yes, you are right, when the boat is slow with low power it may lean on the port, but this is normal.
Also, the ve888 to my eyes is closely related to the Venom ( Atomik) KOS P1 mono, the shape of the hardware and the transom all look familiar. Only different is that this being a self-righting hull. They both use Brushless Outrunner motor, although the Kyosho uses a water cooled mount and unlike the Venom/Atomik which used a clamp type motor mount. Kyosho's approach is better, but I have a suspicion that it is out sourced to a Chinese boat maker called Diamond Hobby----I could be totally wrong, but just saying since I have the Venom KOS P1.
The ve900 is a much nicer boat, and may even be in-house-designed by Kyosho but the higher price to me is an indicator that at least from Kyosho's stand point that it deserves better recognition.
just my $.02

[waterproof]

Thanks for the answers, im a bit unsure what i should do.
The boat is coming tomorrow at the Postoffice because its been ordered by a mistake! lol, i got an error message when i ordered and suddently i got a mail with trackingnumber.
The choice is to pick it up and use it or not unpack and send it right back before i even open it so i could get the money back.
What should i do?

Im afraid the boat is leaning to mutch to the left when i drive around in maby 15-20km or even 40-50? Its looks stupid if it does that, but do you know if the handling gets worse with one battery on the left or have it nothing so say when you drive? The most important ting is handling but i want it to look Nice too when i see the boat drive by about 20km :)
The other thing i think is negative is that not many People talks about this boat on a forum and its not looks like its many stores that have spareparts.

[tlandauer]

On the KyoshoAmerica site there is a page for replacements, I don't know if it is something that will give you some degree of comfort, , here is the link:http://www.kyoshoamerica.com/Replace...ts_c_1034.html
As for the handling: if it is simiular to the Venom/Atomik P1, then it is ok. I got 41mph running on 4s with only the ESC changed to a SeaKing 120 ESC. The fact that Kyosho has a water-cooled motor is a giant improvement over that boat. My only complain other than the non cooled motor mount is that the flex cable is .130, for a boat that size i would like to see at least .150, the ball bearings on the stinger also means more maintenance . But I don't know if this is also the case with Kyosho, I can't tell by looking at the pictures.
Ultimately you have to consider what kind of driving you will do most, if your concern for the leaning of the hull at moderate speeds, then you might need to consider another boat. On the other hand, the self-righting feature is handy. I go to vacation every year to a National park, the lake is very rough, I wish I have a self-righting hull similar in size like this Kyosho boat.
Good luck searching and happy boating.

[Wetter]

the boat should be fine you seem to be the first to have one here. I like cats because they are beautiful and handle quite well.
if you are second guessing your purchase then send it back and research more options, builds and brands are endless well you get my meaning. today a self righting hull would have been nice, my Stiletto rides like a bull but the funnest of my boats to operate.
when it planes it is so neat to see out of a turn and it's stock i wish i could drive a 1:1.
any ways i tried to post earlier today but it some how didn't go through and was not typn' it all again .
i got a friend hooked on sail boats though today (old hippie was sailing out of the gate and actually did quite well).
just being on water is one of the funnest things to do in this world.

[waterproof]

You have right, the self righting hull is realy nice and that is why i want it and pay more for it than another boat on the same size :)

I Wonder how fast i must drive before the prop strighten up the boat tosa normal posissions, not easy to see on YouTube so i must buy it to find out, and the handling is also a big question.

The other boat that i want and could send it back to get the Traxxas spartan for the same price, and a tfl genesis cat for less price.
Why is it so difficalt to choose one of theas? :-) maby you can help me out :-)

[Wetter]

My personal opinion on the spartan hull is too thin and i have one, i'm going to sell later but have some bugs to work out and what i have learned should have never purchased in the first place and it was the so called second version,
neat as heck lookin' though, fast yes but not as good as it could be. it is pretty damn stable on the water.

[tlandauer]

You have right, the self righting hull is realy nice and that is why i want it and pay more for it than another boat on the same sine :)

[B]I Wonder how fast i must drive before the prop strighten up the boat tosa normal posissions, not easy to see on YouTube so i must buy it to find out, and the handling is also a big question. [/B] The other boat that i want and could send it back to get the Traxxas spartan for the same price, and a tfl genesis cat for less price.
Why is it so difficalt to choose one of theas? :-) maby you can help me out :-)

You will not really be bothered by the leaning, if you see this situation, you are driving too slowly. Driving too slowly is BAD for the ESC, it causes more heat and puts alot of stress on your components.

[waterproof]

The spartan looks nice and big! But i also have reed a few people that is not happy with it even if its a v2. And other is realy happy With it even it Stock on 6s.
Tfl genesis is a big cat, after looking at youtube its looks like this boat is unstable on topspeed if it runs on a littlebit wave it easy flip around to the hatch but it damn looking good and you got much for the Money i think. But in my case i would like to not swim after it because its going to be too cold soon. So i must have With me a small air rubber boat to pick it up or buy a hull with self rightning :)

That exactly why im unsure because i will be the first in here with this kyosho boat, why? maby because its not a good boat? Or the price you pay for a 800mm hull and toppspeed 70km?

Tlandauder:
Driving slow is bad thing for the esc was new for me! Before i use to drive slow a few rounds after pushing it hard to "cool it" :P I will remember that now.
You wright a the ball bearings on the stinger also means more maintenance, what is a stinger? sorry for my English, is it another Word to explane this often maintaince parts?

Should i be the first one on this forum to buy it, and if is was a good boat then why isent it own by other users in here? :) Not easy to figure it out why.

[tlandauer]

To drive slower to cool the motor is ok, but the ESC works best when you give full throttle. it works harder to regulate at lower throttle, thus heating up the capacitors.
I think the #1reason is the price, it is on the high side, #2 , self-righting in the US is not that popular.
#3, since this reminds people of the Venom/Atomik P1, people were not thrilled without the watercooled motor mount. This inspite the fact that Brushless Outrunner can run hottor w/o failure. I like my P1 but there were occasions when I was a bit concerned with the heat that is on the motor, but I had no problem. I don't have the turn fin/trim tab combo as the Kyosho, this is exactly like Venom's (V2) P1, mine was fitted with OSE trim tabs and regular turn fins, handles great! The rudder link is too thin, sometimes the boat zig-zags , I need to put a larger diameter rod. That's about it.
Well, good luck!

[tlandauer]

Since I don't have this hull in my hands, I can't tell how strong the FG is, the Venom P1 is thin, many people had problem with gel coat stress cracks and so on, but again, I reinforced mine when i bought here used with these little hair line cracks, I no longer have any more problems. The Kyosho is higher quality, I am sure, they have their standards, but it is still most likely made in China, so what are we going to do?! They are no MHZ for sure. You need to think about what you want to do with the boat later, these boats , in my opinion, have little room for modification and/or up grade. The Aqua Craft Revolt 30, for instance, has room to grow, many people are happy with it. So it really is a personal choice.
Also, the ESC in the Kyosho is totally different than the Venom's, Kyosho has their own "Orion" brand.
Sorry I got to go, again, best of luck and happy boating!

[Wetter]

Should i be the first one on this forum to buy it, and if is was a good boat then why isent it own by other users in here? :) Not easy to figure it out why.[/QUOTE]

Waterproof it seems as i learned here is most people like starting from scratch(better built hulls) so they hop up and modify their rides to
tailor for their need for speed for their Leviathans, on that note, the PNP and RTR vehicles for people to have fun right out of the box. so until your knowledge furthers,
(and trust me i am always reading and learning new stuff here and other sites as well) that you go out and enjoy your new boat it will not be your last one. read(a lot) and ask questions and be safe.