fine design 6 pole black nemisis

[urbs00007]

has anyone run one of the 6 pole motors fine design is selling? seems to be same as T P motors from china.

[expresscraft]

I have 2 of the 11 HP 830kv motors from chris, have not run them yet but hope to soon.

[LOVE6S]

They seem to be more in price dont they?

[urbs00007]

11 hp

are these your motors? http://www.tppower.com/sort.asp?class_id=4&news=21

[urbs00007]

hi can you look at my post and verify if the pic is similar to your fine design black nemisis? thanks

[expresscraft]

sorry for the delay, no that is not the same motor.5660-6Y-820KV is what is engraved on the backplate

[forescott]

Its gotta be this one..........just a different color can.

http://www.tppower.com/sort.asp?class_id=4&news=57

[forescott]

If you buy enough motors, the manufacturer will sometimes let you choose can colors and also engrave them. Leopard also does this for fine design.

[expresscraft]

I am not really sure,I think Chris said he had 6 coming when I ordered mine, it does look like what you posted except for the water jacket.I am not going to sweat whether I paid to much,I know Chris has been around for a long time, and I could not get a good solid answer on which motor. so good or bad I took his endorsement,And at this point I am happy with my dealings with fine design,I am new to electric, but not the hobby. I know that giving and getting good advise has value that I am willing to pay for.I know from selling gas powered boats for 20 plus years that most of the info you get on forums is good, but a lot of it is speculation, there needs to always be guys that do this for a living. or there simply will be no professionals left, guys that use this stuff all the time and hear good and bad from customers on a daily basis. Very few hobbies't can compete with that type of volume info, and can only speculate.

[tlandauer]

If you buy enough motors, the manufacturer will sometimes let you choose can colors and also engrave them. Leopard also does this for fine design.

However, if I may make an observation here regarding the Leopard motor I had from FD: it is a 2200kv, 4082 "Gold Can", the cogging is tremendous, you almost can not turn the shaft by hand, the same feeling applies to Proboat motors while all my "Red Can" Leopard motors turn like Neu motors which is to say that you feel a bit of cogging but hand turning the motor shaft is possible.I know these motors are 4 pole but the FD "Gold Can" almost feels like a 6 pole.
I like to know what is the expert's opinion on this one.
Apologies for diverting the course of discussion, thanks.

[ray schrauwen]

All Black motors Chris sells are Y winds and most other places that retail them buy the D winds.

[expresscraft]

what is the difference?

[urbs00007]

from what I've read more torque on y winds. i have a neu 2230 1 Y 725 kv. running on 12-s. if anyone gets the black nemesis version of the 2230 ( 13 hp ) let me know. I run this motor on bench with wood airplane prop and get rpm data. we can compare. hp numbers mean nothing .

[mappo]

are these your motors? http://www.tppower.com/sort.asp?class_id=4&news=21

These motors seems overrated. 50000 rpm?

[urbs00007]

rigger

These motors seems overrated. 50000 rpm?

yup maybe with no load. my 2230 runs 26,000 rpm on a 10-6 airplane prop 12-s