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  • egneg
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Feb 2008
    • 4759

    #16
    There are better ways to check the caps than a huge connector melting spark.
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    • twissted
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 896

      #17

      These speed controls came with this installed and is something that is found on the new fightercat speed controls.
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      Last edited by twissted; 10-02-2012, 01:59 PM.
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      • 1945dave
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2012
        • 295

        #18
        Originally posted by twissted View Post
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        These speed controls came with this installed and is something that is found on the new fightercat speed controls.
        Help me understand what I am seeing. How exactly does the resistor connect before the main power?

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        • twissted
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 896

          #19
          I changed the picture so that it has arrows that point to the anti spark that these speed controls come with. also if you look at the youtube vids I think it is covered there as well.
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          • 1945dave
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 295

            #20
            Originally posted by twissted View Post
            I changed the picture so that it has arrows that point to the anti spark that these speed controls come with. also if you look at the youtube vids I think it is covered there as well.
            Okay, I could see the resistors without the arrows but what I don't see is how the resistor lead connects to the batteries before the main power plug. Is there two ends on the black leads?

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            • twissted
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 896

              #21
              Watch this! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFL31atTPuE
              Last edited by twissted; 10-02-2012, 03:24 PM.
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              • Basstronics
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Jun 2008
                • 2384

                #22
                Originally posted by siberianhusky View Post
                Remember if the anti spark is always connected you are adding unneeded resistance to the circuit. Basic electrical theory for resistance in parallel.
                A 50 ohm resistor always connected in parallel is adding 25 ohms of resistance to the circuit, not taking account the bullet which will add a little bit as well.
                I disagree.

                Electricity 101.

                Electric will follow the path of least resistance.

                If you hook up the resistor at first it will flow thru and charge the caps. When you hook up the primary positive there will be no current thru the resistor as there is more resistance there than the primary wire.

                So hook it up and leave it or remove it. Doesn't matter much.
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                • KartRacer
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 363

                  #23
                  Interesting thought

                  Originally posted by Fluid View Post
                  Keep in mind that that "crack" you hate can save you an ESC. If you plug in a normal pack and get no spark, then your caps are bad and the ESC will blow soon. Seems to me a small price to pay to save an ESC, you just have to replace a pair of plugs once or twice a year. I wonder if there is a correlation between ESC failure and the use of anti-sparking devices.......


                  .
                  I hate the crack also, but I'm not at all used to it. But it is a very interesting thought that it provides confirmation that the caps are indeed sound. Think I,ll work without the extra leads for now.
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                  • capnswanny
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 867

                    #24
                    Originally posted by egneg View Post
                    There are better ways to check the caps than a huge connector melting spark.
                    Visual Inspection can turn up some failures, but it's not a sure bet.
                    A Huntron Tracker could check the Cap in circuit, but you'd have to map one out before it blew...and they are a pretty spendy tool.
                    Pulling the Cap to test is a real pain in the rear.

                    If I don't see a spark I discharge the Cap and try again. I've found the Caps bad on two AQ60 ESC's (older ones) this way and was able to replace them before any other damage occured.

                    I can think of better ways but they sure aren't easier!
                    What did you have in mind?
                    This is NOT a toy?!?

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                    • Shooter
                      Team Mojo
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 2751

                      #25
                      Wouldn't a light bulb act as both an 'anti-spark' and a 'cap tester'?? You could watch the bulb brighten at first and then slowly dim. A separate plug, like egnegs, would be best I think.

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                      • SweetAccord
                        Speed Passion
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 1322

                        #26
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                        • steveo
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 1595

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Basstronics View Post
                          I disagree.

                          Electricity 101.

                          Electric will follow the path of least resistance.

                          If you hook up the resistor at first it will flow thru and charge the caps. When you hook up the primary positive there will be no current thru the resistor as there is more resistance there than the primary wire.

                          So hook it up and leave it or remove it. Doesn't matter much.
                          u r 100% correct only if the resistor was in series would the resistance be present

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                          • fla350tt
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 402

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Basstronics View Post
                            I disagree.

                            Electricity 101.

                            Electric will follow the path of least resistance.

                            If you hook up the resistor at first it will flow thru and charge the caps. When you hook up the primary positive there will be no current thru the resistor as there is more resistance there than the primary wire.

                            So hook it up and leave it or remove it. Doesn't matter much.
                            I am sorry sir but this theory is not true. explaination below
                            Last edited by fla350tt; 10-05-2012, 05:21 AM.

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                            • fla350tt
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 402

                              #29
                              Originally posted by steveo View Post
                              u r 100% correct only if the resistor was in series would the resistance be present
                              I will chime in hear as I have a little knowledge in this area being an electrician and remembered hearing someone talk about this in class(when your older you like learning new stuff).Currnet will travel all paths of resistance, even in parallel circiuts. ex. your house lights, receptacles all are parallel. everything thing works at the same time and all have different resistances. so if you leave the resistor pluged in it will consume some energy from your battery.

                              so better to disconnect the resistor

                              here is a good link for better explanation: http://www.mikeholt.com/technical.ph...ce?%20(2-8-2K)
                              Last edited by fla350tt; 10-05-2012, 08:34 AM.

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                              • egneg
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 4759

                                #30
                                Originally posted by fla350tt View Post
                                I will chime in hear as I have a little knowledge in this area being an electrician and remembered hearing someone talk about this in class(when your older you like learning new stuff).Currnet will travel all paths of resistance, even in parallel circiuts. ex. your house lights, receptacles all are parallel. everything thing works at the same time and all have different resistances. so if you leave the resistor pluged in it will consume some energy from your battery. here is a formula kinda hard to put in but, voltage squared/resistance=watts ex. 14.8x14.8 / 10ohms = 21.904 watts of wasted battery

                                here is a good link for better explanation: http://www.mikeholt.com/technical.ph...ce?%20(2-8-2K)
                                Sorry to burst your bubble but in a parallel circuit the total resistance will be less than the smallest resistance - Ohms law.
                                IMPBA 20481S D-12

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