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  • Checkmateguy01
    Senior Member
    • May 2009
    • 376

    #1

    Best Collets?

    Just curious as to what everybody uses for collets, what the best brand/type would be? On my Daytona Cat i have a long Octura 2pc unit but i don't think it is perfectly true. Octura makes good stuff so it's probably fine. I was thinking about ordering another collet just for grins and giggles, but are any of them perfectly true? How about the 3pc units? Like i said, just curious, looking for a little knowledge!
  • detox
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Jun 2008
    • 2310

    #2
    I like the small 2pc. stainless collet from Kintec (right). Be sure to tighten well. The Aluminum Jeff Wholt collet (left) is true and lightweight, but more diffucult to use. Octura (center). All in picture are 8mm x 3/16" size.
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    • Drax21
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Jul 2011
      • 1021

      #3
      The 5mm to 3/16 Collets Jan at Kintec sells are top notch. I have been using them for a while. You can tighten them right up and when you want to looses just give it a tap with the spanner as you are unscrewing. Works every time. The idea of a replaceable insert is good too just incase you wear it out but I have never had Kintecs wear out. The 3 piece Hobbyking sell wear easy.
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      • detox
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Jun 2008
        • 2310

        #4
        I dislike the troublesome three piece collets with brass insert. I like to relube my cable between every run.

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        • srislash
          Not there yet
          • Mar 2011
          • 7651

          #5
          I am partial to the stainless mentioned above.I got mine from FC but they are the same I believe.I've got a three piece in my mono and it is working well,it hasn't jammed up on me yet.The only one I've had an issue with is the short Octura in the MG.It snapped in half while tightening once.

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          • Fluid
            Fast and Furious
            • Apr 2007
            • 7990

            #6
            A tip - lubricate the threads and cone surface of collet-type couplers with a small amount of Never-Seez. This will give you substantially more clamping force on the cable with the same amount of wrench torque. Or, less torque for the same amount of clamping. Helps in keeping the cable from slipping or from being lost.






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            • srislash
              Not there yet
              • Mar 2011
              • 7651

              #7
              Allright,started out the day with a great tip.Now I got a stop to make after work.

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              • Checkmateguy01
                Senior Member
                • May 2009
                • 376

                #8
                Originally posted by Fluid View Post
                A tip - lubricate the threads and cone surface of collet-type couplers with a small amount of Never-Seez. This will give you substantially more clamping force on the cable with the same amount of wrench torque. Or, less torque for the same amount of clamping. Helps in keeping the cable from slipping or from being lost.

                https://www.neverseezproductscart.co...40d7fd610b6111
                Yup, good tip, i'll have to pick some of that up too!!

                I have one of the 3pc 5mm-3/16 in another boat, i'd like to try that on the Daytona but it's seized right to the motor shaft! I've sprayed the heack out of it with PB blaster and WD40 but it just doesn't want to pop loose. I am a little bit worried about over-tightening the 3pc and getting the flex jammed up, that's why i kinda perfer the 2pc.

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                • JIM MARCUM
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 770

                  #9
                  Jason, you're a CNC machinist so you probably have tried all this: holding the motor in your hand...................
                  1. Slip a claw hammer under the collet and GENTLY pry it loose
                  2. Tap the collet GENTLY with a small ball peen hammer, repeat #1
                  3. Use a butane toarch to heat up the collet & immediately dunk it (not the motor) in a container of ice cold water, then repeat #1

                  Once you get it off, toss the 3 piece collet in the trash can and use a 2 piece collet, pre lubed with Never Seez like Jay said.
                  Last edited by JIM MARCUM; 04-03-2012, 05:44 PM.
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                  • Checkmateguy01
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2009
                    • 376

                    #10
                    Originally posted by JIM MARCUM View Post
                    Jason, you're a CNC machinist so you probably have tried all this: holding the motor in your hand...................
                    1. Slip a claw hammer under the collet and GENTLY pry it loose
                    2. Tap the collet GENTLY with a small ball peen hammer, repear #1
                    3. Use a butane toarch to heat up the collet & immediately dunk it (not the motor) in a container of ice cold water, then repeat #1

                    Once you get it off, toss the 3 piece collet in the trash can and use a 2 piece collet, pre lubed with Never Seez like Jay said.
                    Yeah i basically tried 1 & 2. I don't run the boat any more (never ran right, handled like a dump truck) so i just put it on a shelf and moved on. I haven't touched it in a couple years. All i did was tried to pry it with a pair of screw drivers from both sides to somewhat equal out the pressure and not bend the motor shaft, plus lightly tapping on it, didn't budge. I thought some PB blaster would help free it but nope. I also thought about heating it up, that would probably do it, but like you said i'm probably not gonna use a 3pc anyways, it was just a idea.

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                    • FRED
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 230

                      #11
                      Use a dremel with a cut-off wheel. Tape end of motor so no crap get in and go gentle. Wear a face mask and goggles. Now every so often , dip collet in cold water. Now it may take several cut-off wheels. Now if you have a big lighted maginfing glass , sure would help.

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                      • xkos
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 168

                        #12


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                        • larryrose11
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 763

                          #13
                          I could use some collet help.
                          I bought a used NEU motor with a 2.3 mm shaft. I had no idea it would be so hard to find a collet that I could use. Im running a 0.098 flex shaft.
                          I was planning on using this:
                          http://www.etti.com.hk/product_info....products_id=48
                          I was then going to mill out the 1.2mm end to a 2.5mm (0.098) for the flex shaft.
                          I like the dual collet idea, because the 2.3 mm shaft is small, filing off a flat concerns me.
                          Would it be better to make a stainless steel shaft shim to go from 2.3mm to somthing more reasonable like 3.2 MM?
                          Should I just order a custom one from Jeff Wholt?
                          Thanks!!
                          Cheetah, Super Rio, (Mod) Starship (Mod and sold),

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                          • FRED
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 230

                            #14
                            Just ,order from Jeff instead of milling and have ut right. I tried the milling and was a hair off and ( censored ), you know what i'm talking about. Trouble being a hair off wears motor shaft and your out $$$$, not worth it.

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                            • izcain
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 274

                              #15
                              Not sure who else has the same collet as Ben over at fightercat but I have his and I like it better then all the others so far just by the way it grabbed the cable.
                              CF Fightercat Daytona, 21 year old Hitec Sea Nymph, Genesis and many more to come im sure.

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