Limited spec mono

[line6]

Come raceday, the fastest boat in the class wins the class 39% of the time.

At the '10 Nats in Colorado, P-Ltd Offshore...out of I think 25 boats, only 2 of them finished all 4 heats.

Just to comment again, my posts on this thread are really for National/Sanctioned events.

Steve-For me personally, I want the dead boat to stay put. As much as the driver of the dead boat wishes he could get it off the course and that it would be helpful to the other drivers, the best thing he can do for the CD and the other drivers is to leave it there and continue to announce, or remind the CD to continually announce the dead boat and it's location.

That is the proper etiquette at a racing event. It is the least confusing way for the CD's and other drivers to deal with a dead boat. Your point is valid, but I think it's too simplistic. On the surface, yes-if you can move a dead boat off of the course, do so...but the situation is more dynamic than that. The CD runs the race. He calls the boat dead...it is to stay put. Otherwise, you have the drivers making the decision whether or not to get their boat off the course, and different drivers have different opinions on what should and should not be appropriate. It's not his call. And, this isn't just about SRB's...some boats flip and the driver tries to air-drive the boat to the infield or off the course.

I was in an Open heat early in October with my new Q mono, racing gas monos and sport hydros. The last heat had 7 boats in it and I stuffed in turn 1. Boat died, but was upright. The radio failsafe kicked in because the boat submarined. It actually re-activated after a few seconds, but the CD called me dead so I left it in turn 1, lane 3 for all 6 laps, while the remaining boats finished the race. I made sure it was announced each lap.

The other drivers race concentration is more important to me than me trying to get my boat off the course. My boat was called dead so if they hit it, it's their "fault". Not that I hold it against them, but it's their fault. If I attempt to move it and then it gets hit or I create a loss of concentration for another driver that makes him do something stupid, I'm now at fault for whatever happened because of my decision to move the boat...and then feel bad about it.

Dave's right on the money. A called dead boat is a dead boat. whether it flips, blows up, has radio issue, something comes un done what ever happens. its a dead boat. leave it where it is. that's what the CD and your spotter is for. to let you as a drive know where its at. On the SRB they have a great place in this hobby. but its NOT in a National race. and i would prefer to not see them in any race.

Now back on subject. I switched my N2 mono over (DF25) and it rips. gona try my DF29 next.




JAson Sims

[T.S.Davis]

HEHE I don't know Jason. You managed to hit my LSH dead nuts with a spotter and a CD. If my sports would self right you would have missed me for sure. I'm teasing you by the way. I finally managed to kill that boat just a couple weeks ago. Not sure what to try in that class. Haven't seen anything that knocks my socks off.

Jason, how do you think the 25 will do with some traffic? I think Fred just ordered a 29.

[Jeepers]

I gonna race my Cyberstorm 32 next weekend in P-Limited/A mono. My Cyberstorm is set up for offshore, but I will set it up for sprint and see how it goes.

[line6]

HEHE I don't know Jason. You managed to hit my LSH dead nuts with a spotter and a CD. If my sports would self right you would have missed me for sure. I'm teasing you by the way. I finally managed to kill that boat just a couple weeks ago. Not sure what to try in that class. Haven't seen anything that knocks my socks off.

Jason, how do you think the 25 will do with some traffic? I think Fred just ordered a 29.

Terry in my defense it was P-Sport hydro (same boat prob, more speed) and i was chasing Dougie for the win LOL. I dont think either one of us saw it. I remember Doug saying he just missed it. And i know you teasing, its a racing deal but i still feel bad.

I Haven't ran the 25 with other boats yet. its hard to say i guess if its all small boats out there it would do fine. the boats solid but if you catch a bad wake? but it might be fast enough to get out front early and stay there. i really cant wait to race the thing i don't know why it took so long to get this class going.


JAson Sims

[T.S.Davis]

I know, seems like a no brainer. Similar output to an N2 boat but no crazy high amp nonsense.

I know it bothers ya. That's why I'm busting your nuts. haha It's like that for all of us. I can crush one into the wall and lose zero sleep over it. When I hit someone I feel like such a turd. I break out the "Fred ran over my Q sport" story to torture him constantly.

Also in your defense. That boat has no draft when it's upright. Upside down forget it. Sure enough I hit one of our new recruits with it. Dead boat. Dang it.

[properchopper]

I know, seems like a no brainer. Similar output to an N2 boat but no crazy high amp nonsense.

I know it bothers ya. That's why I'm busting your nuts. haha It's like that for all of us. I can crush one into the wall and lose zero sleep over it. When I hit someone I feel like such a turd. I break out the "Fred ran over my Q sport" story to torture him constantly.

Also in your defense. That boat has no draft when it's upright. Upside down forget it. Sure enough I hit one of our new recruits with it. Dead boat. Dang it.

Since we're meandering into the "Big OOPs " realm, here's my "Two-For-One Carnage Award" story : P-Sport Hydro heat at Legg. I loaned my shiny bad-a$& P-Sport to Jeff to run and ran my P-Ltd Sport rig just to make the class. On the third lap, while my pitman-spotter's brain was taking a romp in a parallel universe, Jeff went belly up on the back straight, and you guessed it, I nailed MY BOAT with MY OTHER BOAT. What a charming week I had on the workbench after that incident. Do I get a Hoo-Rah ??

[T.S.Davis]

Tony, that is awesome! Oh, and it's my thread so screw it. Tangent away fellas.

[Doby]

....travel to a foreign country to race .....

......where you call'in foreign Willis???


I can safely say that the published rules will be followed on race days.

If the rules have been discussed......
If the rules have been voted on by the appropriate powers that be....

...then formally publish the damn things and they will be followed..Its not rocket science folks.

One should not have to search through forums to find "changes" and try and determine whats what.

Terry, perhaps if you had a speed controller in your boat and not a friggin "on/off" switch then they might stay right side up more often.


Stinger: Mike B said it best.....try racing....despite some of the "discussions" here its actually a hell of a way to spend a fun weekend.

Remember folks, its all about getting and maintaining participation in the hobby and having fun.

[T.S.Davis]

I just thought of this too on the racing thing. When I have a conflict/incident on the course, I'm actually a LOT more tolerant of a guy that has less experience. Jason hit my custom one off whiplash at his first big race. I wasn't mad at him then. I'm still not mad at him. I'm mad at Ken for bringing him. hahaha kidding again.

[FE Wannabe]

Here is a novice question:

What is a decent speed to aim for in a competitive Limited Spec Mono? I have an Aeromarine Scorpion 32" that I was thinking of racing, but I want to make sure it is capable of keeping up with the pack.

Thanks,
Brad

[D. Newland]

Ran my Delta Force 25" yesterday with 5 other boats on the water. The report will be in the Scottsdale Club section soon.

Brad-I'm not one to GPS or radar my boats, but I would say mid to high 40's and a boat that is so stable and consistent that it's boring. That's where you want to start.

[Doug Smock]

Can't tell you how many times I have posted this link on this forum. http://www.impba.net/index.php?optio...atid=28&id=191

How many of you guys voted on the rules? Did you read them first?

If you knew the rules why didn't you talk to the CD?

If you didn't, who you gonna blame for that? They aren't published or linked to whatever? It's your job to know. If you don't, ask!

Why are there only 489 members signed up on the IMPBA forum?

How many have made suggestions??

How many have read the Roostertails?

How many of you guys have stepped up and asked the IMPBA BOD or your Dist. Dir. "What can I do to help"??

You want a better org?? Make it that way!

BTW I love you guys!

Have a nice day,
Doug
PS I don't think you ever see Chris Harris chime in on a rules discussion on any forum other than the one linked to above.

[FE Wannabe]

Ran my Delta Force 25" yesterday with 5 other boats on the water. The report will be in the Scottsdale Club section soon.

Brad-I'm not one to GPS or radar my boats, but I would say mid to high 40's and a boat that is so stable and consistent that it's boring. That's where you want to start.

David,
Thanks for the info. I think I can manage to do mid 40's and boring.
I just didn't want to be a moving speed bump out there.

Thanks,
Brad

[T.S.Davis]

Doug, amen brother. Although, on the course, at an FE event, I expect the CD that was the FE chairmen, to know the rules better than I do at least. But I'm totally with you on the "quit you bitch'n" line of thinking. Get involved or shut your pie hole. My words, not yours.

In my defense, I don't mess with IMPBA much. Couple reasons. IMPBA just isn't that common in my parts. I recognize that is a horrible excuse. It should be about the whole picture. My primary reason for not getting involved with IMPBA is that I'm on the NAMBA BOD. Think it matters? IDK

NAMBA is NOT exempt from mistakes either BTW. Both organizations are run by hobbiests for hobbiests.

[Doug Smock]

Doug, amen brother. Although, on the course, at an FE event, I expect the CD that was the FE chairmen, to know the rules better than I do at least. .

Yes sir!!! Absolutely no doubt about that.

Yeah Terry you are NAMBA for the same reason I am IMPBA, and I hear what you are saying.
I think the future is bright for both orgs, and I can't wait to see what next year brings.
Hopefully a trip up north!!
D.