70 mph Insane Hydro ?

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  • Fluid
    Fast and Furious
    • Apr 2007
    • 8103

    #16
    Since my FE-30 is a UL-1 powered LSH oval racer, my props and speeds don't apply here. The V900s are SAW props which when set up right will run on the tips, reducing drag. "Rounding the ears" and back-cutting destroy the advantages of these specialized props. Lift can be reduced without too much compromise by very slight cupping of the leading edges near the tips. But the lift is what you want in a SAW prop to help counteract the lifting of the bow.....

    I ran into the 90s with a v940/3 on an old 12-cell SAW racer several years ago. Held the Q Offshore SAW record for 6 years with a v937/3. There are better oval props for certain, but these work for SAW without modification.



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    • knpc
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2008
      • 649

      #17
      Originally posted by britscoot View Post
      Hey Kevin,
      what is your strut setup?
      Are you using a flat or round bottom?
      britscoot

      I'm using a round bottom strut, the Insane hardware that's made for this hull. The bottom of my strut is 7/8'' below the bottom of the hull and is set to 0 deg.

      I have accumulated my props over the last few years. It's great to have many options for each boat to find out what works best. My boats are all similar is size and power so the props work for more than one setup. I probably have 30 + or - hrs into sharpening, balancing, and polishing all of them.


      Thanks you for your advise Jay, my boats get better all the time because of your posts.


      Kevin.
      Rico 29, Sprintcat 34, Insane FE 30 Hydro, 43'' Aeromarine Conquest

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      • britscoot
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 721

        #18
        Hey Kevin

        thanks for the info.
        The Insane hardware kit i received had a flat bottom strut.I swapped it out for the round to get more prop in the water.I cant run mine at zero deg as it hops like a rabbit on meth.

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        • knpc
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2008
          • 649

          #19
          What is the angle of your strut?
          Mine is parallel with the afterplane of the hull, I assume that is 0 deg on a hydro.
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          Rico 29, Sprintcat 34, Insane FE 30 Hydro, 43'' Aeromarine Conquest

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          • britscoot
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 721

            #20
            my strut is angled towards the front of the hull about 4 deg.
            if that makes sense...lol
            took the hop right out.

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            • Fluid
              Fast and Furious
              • Apr 2007
              • 8103

              #21
              Mine is parallel with the afterplane of the hull, I assume that is 0 deg on a hydro.
              No. Place the hydro on a flat table resting on the sponsons and the strut. Adjust the strut to be dead flat on the table. That is zero degrees. You can run a degree or two of up at the prop end if needed.


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              • bigwaveohs
                Senior Member
                • May 2009
                • 606

                #22
                Originally posted by britscoot View Post
                my strut is angled towards the front of the hull about 4 deg.
                if that makes sense...lol
                took the hop right out.
                So does that mean that you are running the bottom of the strut at a negative 4 degrees? I would think that would lift the back and cause even more hopping????
                My hull is hopping with the strut running flat and I'm trying to get rid of the hop....
                I let the dogs out...

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                • RandyatBBY
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 3943

                  #23
                  Originally posted by bigwaveohs View Post
                  So does that mean that you are running the bottom of the strut at a negative 4 degrees? I would think that would lift the back and cause even more hopping????
                  My hull is hopping with the strut running flat and I'm trying to get rid of the hop....
                  Hi Pete
                  The hopping comes from too much lift if the strut is at Zero degrees. Funny I ran 70MPH on 2S with the Zephyer 27.
                  Randy
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                  • blizard05
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 585

                    #24
                    Hey, Kevin Lets get sone pics of that bad boy flying before the water gets hard. Next time at Norms ? Larry
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                    • knpc
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 649

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Fluid View Post
                      No. Place the hydro on a flat table resting on the sponsons and the strut. Adjust the strut to be dead flat on the table. That is zero degrees. You can run a degree or two of up at the prop end if needed.


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                      That means I've been running the strut a few deg negative which would explain why the V937/3 wasn't working well. It does run perfect with the strut the way I have it for all other props, no hopping, no blowovers, no stuffs, amps are good, and speeds are fast. I'll mark the strut where I have it so I can go back to it later, but I'll adjust it to 0 deg when using the V series prop. Thanks
                      Last edited by knpc; 11-02-2010, 04:42 PM.
                      Rico 29, Sprintcat 34, Insane FE 30 Hydro, 43'' Aeromarine Conquest

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                      • britscoot
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 721

                        #26
                        Kevin,with all the props i have tried it hops like crazy at 0 deg.
                        I know it makes no sense having the strut the way i do but it works.
                        I am going to start adjusting back slightly to 0 deg to see what happens.

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                        • bigwaveohs
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2009
                          • 606

                          #27
                          According to Jeff at Insane Boats, the best way to get rid of the hop is to take some of the lift out of the prop rather than going too far on the strut adjustment...
                          I let the dogs out...

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                          • britscoot
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 721

                            #28
                            how do you take lift out of the prop?
                            never done it before.

                            cheers

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                            • AlanN
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 334

                              #29
                              cup the leading edge.

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                              • britscoot
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 721

                                #30
                                Do i have to cup the entire length or just the tip?

                                thanks!

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