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  • Gary
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Jan 2009
    • 1104

    #1

    question on tube dia.

    I know this was covered in another thread but my question was not really clarified.Im running a .187 cable in a 1/4 brass stuffing tube and it seems alittle loud like mabe its moving around to much in the tube. Will a 7/32 be better? I heard they were to tight and generate to much heat on the .187 cable but it does fit nice and snug with no cable side movement. I always ran a nylon liner and back to back testing has shown no speed increase without it so mabe a smaller dia. tube????????? Any thoughts.
    PT-45, 109mph, finally gave up after last bad crash
    H&M 1/8 Miss Bud 73 mph
    Chris Craft 16 mph
  • forescott
    Hopelessly Addicted to RC
    • Nov 2009
    • 3009

    #2
    I hope it works well because the 7/32 tube is what I have in my 41-inch mono set up. I havent run it yet, but I think it will work great. I may just need a good recommendation for what type of lube to use!

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    • forescott
      Hopelessly Addicted to RC
      • Nov 2009
      • 3009

      #3
      1/4 inch just seemed waaay too sloppy to me!

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      • steveo
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Apr 2007
        • 1595

        #4
        both are ok for what i have read i just switched to 1/4 from 7/32 and alittle sloppy but nothing that bad, i think i can live with alittle more noise with a a less resistive drive line
        i have not run the boat yet i moved the motor foward and just went a head and changed it up, there is a quite a difference between the two being smooth

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        • steveo
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Apr 2007
          • 1595

          #5
          i was just thinking if its to noisy maybe you could slip a piece of 7/32 through the 1/4 up to the bend that might help i might experiment with that

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          • forescott
            Hopelessly Addicted to RC
            • Nov 2009
            • 3009

            #6
            Why did you switch?

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            • BakedMopar
              No Mo Slipah
              • Sep 2009
              • 1743

              #7
              I use 1/4" with my .187" cable. Not an issue. I've had issues with the 7/32" though on one boat as it had too much bend. Think of it this way, that's the same diameter you use for a 3/16" stub bushing.
              If all of your wishes are granted, many of your dreams will be destroyed!

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              • Gary
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Jan 2009
                • 1104

                #8
                Well noise is not important to me but i just thought it sounded a little loud like it was winding? up a tiny amount and causing a vibration within the tube which i know will rob power and cause a possible problem. Forescott i switched only to find a tad more speed. Boat is stuck around 84-85 and i just like the chase for more!!
                Last edited by Gary; 10-11-2010, 07:47 PM.
                PT-45, 109mph, finally gave up after last bad crash
                H&M 1/8 Miss Bud 73 mph
                Chris Craft 16 mph

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                • Gary
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 1104

                  #9
                  Well answerd my own question today. Tried the 7/32 tube and it was smoking hot. Cooked all the oil out real fast so i guess it is to small a diameter. Now i know !! Thanks anyway guys.
                  PT-45, 109mph, finally gave up after last bad crash
                  H&M 1/8 Miss Bud 73 mph
                  Chris Craft 16 mph

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                  • forescott
                    Hopelessly Addicted to RC
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 3009

                    #10
                    Oh crap! Bad for me! What rpm do you think you're spinning?? My setup should be around 30,000 unloaded rpm. Maybe my setup will run cooler?? I'm not looking for 85+ mph.

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                    • Gary
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 1104

                      #11
                      Im around 38,000 at top speed. It was pretty hot and when I took the hatch off smoke came out. Not good!!!!Driveshft was also discolored.
                      PT-45, 109mph, finally gave up after last bad crash
                      H&M 1/8 Miss Bud 73 mph
                      Chris Craft 16 mph

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                      • AlanN
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 334

                        #12
                        The tighter fitting tube needs constant lubrication. An oiler works but you must still be carefull. 1/4" and 3/16" cable doesn't really like 20,000+ rpms. I have been through this many times with larger hulls. I often have to re-do the stuffing tube. My best 3/16" stuffing tube was an S bend out of 1/4" and filled with Mercury cable grease for my 1/8 scale. Didn't have to regrease every run. Not sure if it was the s bend or the strut that kept the grease in. But I did put alot in. Then held my finger over the opening when I pushed the cable in. Messy but effective.

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                        • forescott
                          Hopelessly Addicted to RC
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 3009

                          #13
                          Anyone out there having success with 7/32 tube & 3/16 flex??

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                          • BakedMopar
                            No Mo Slipah
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 1743

                            #14
                            This morning I put four two minute runs on my hydro spinning mid 30k unloaded (.250" /.187"). Still had a good amount of grease left on it when I took it out at home. I agree that it ain't quiet but it works and you'll never hear it once in the water.
                            If all of your wishes are granted, many of your dreams will be destroyed!

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                            • marko500
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 862

                              #15
                              I run a 3/16 cable in a 7/32 tube in a cat and no problems yet, but I regrease it after every other run. I did sand down the cable very slightly before I installed it and the tube has a VERY slight bend in it. I also run a 3/16 cable in a 1/4 tube on a hydro and have no had problems after about 8 runs. The cable in the hydro definitly feels easier to turn by hand. I will probably end up switching the cat over to the larger tube eventually.

                              Mark

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