Building a Boat, My first!

[Doby]

For an idiot from Ontario you are asking valid questions

Douggie

Moron from BC

[marko500]

Hey Dreyelce, Please don't misunderstand my post, building a boat yourself is one of the most rewarding things I know of, just hate to see anyone get discouraged(I don't think that will happen to you after reading your posts). You mentioned the Niagara River where are you located? There are some guys in Southern Ontario and a bunch of us in the Buffalo area that run FE. Your welcome to come over and run with us in Buffalo if you live close.

[Doby]

Buffalo is full of Americans.

Come to Toronto/ Kitchener instead.......

[marko500]

It takes me a day and a half just to pass through Toronto on the way to my cousins house up north! Lately Buffalo is full of Canadian shoppers!!!

[DreyeIce]

no, i wont get discouraged, i have been building RC for years, i know how this game goes

well, i have more questions after looking on more sites,

for the rudder, i see single arm and double arm setups, and i see single and double rudders,

i also see some people put a rudder on, and they have a seperate shaft for the prop output,

would it be better to get a prop setup attached to the prop holder thing? or seperate to eachother?,


any benefits for dual rudders? or benefits for a shaft holder thign attached to the rudder setup?

just going through a boat checklist for parts, i only got one shot to order my stuff, or i will have to wait weeks inbetween shipments,

thanks,

[screwball]

hey nick ill give you a hand on this one haha

the single servo arm and double arm is usually just for servo adjustments and also on some boats where they have the inline setup people run the rudder like a push-pull kinda thing.

having an inline rudder creates more drag, so on mono applications people tend to run an offset rudder, this also means that the boat will turn better in one direction. this is where the dual rudders come in, personally i dont like them ( just more to break imo), but they do have better cornering abilities. i run an inline rudder on my cat so that i get good cornering, but the SAW record that was set on the same hull i have (by a member of this forum Bill oxdean) uses an offset ruder. so basically each has its drawbacks so i really think its up to you although some might disagree.
to answer a question on one of your other posts, i set my water oickups on the opposite side that the rudder is spinning ie prop is spinning clockwise i would put the pickup on the left to counteract torque roll although i might have that backwards lol, some rudders have a pickup built into them, if you can i would get one of them. as for the water exit it doesnt really matter its all prefrence just dont put it on the bottom of the hull, or on the deck, somepeople putit out the back but i like to put it on the side so i can keep an eye on it.

whew that was a long post Hahaha
James

[Flying Scotsman]

Moron from BC

John, you have a pm and a

BUT the twits from TORONTO should get off the pleading we are the best city in Canada...not a chance, as I lived there!!!
Your neck of the woods is a different matter.

Sorry to hijack the thread. as the lad needs help

Douggie the MORON and loves his new title

Back to the thread

[Scott T]

i was looking at a Delta Force 26, thats an inexpensive hull to start as a base, and a seaking ESC and a feiago motor,

and i was thinking of using my Revo's 3s packs in the boat to save a little,

but my problem lies in the whole setup of evrything,

how would it be like gearing in a boat, by the prop and stuff, and how does the water cooling routing go?

Good hull choice. An Oval Master 26 from BBY Racing would also suit your needs. A Feigao 540L or 540XL would be a good choice, something around 2600 rpm/V.

To make life easy, this hardware would be good - http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...?prod=sol-mono Only 4 screws and the whole lot is on. Rudder has a water pick-up, so your cooling is covered. The transom of the DF26 isn't massive, so this simple mounting will give you more room for your trim tabs.

Turn fins - these should work - http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...prod=ose-80060 These tabs are also good - http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...od=ose-tab1015

Easy to use motor mount - http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...prod=etti-h010 Just epoxy it directly to the bottom of the hull.

A standard servo will work for you. You could go smaller (maybe a Hitec 225MG), but you probably won't need to save weight anyway.

As the others have said, there's plenty of builds on this site. Just make sure you leave yourself room to get to the items that need maintenance and you'l have a boat you'll love for ages.
Cheers, Scott

[DreyeIce]

would a BBY racing oval master 29 be good also?

i was offered it and im considering it,

but the 98$ price tag on that rudder combo hurts.

ever heard of r2hobbies?

http://r2hobbies.com/categories.php?cat=139

they have some good stuff.

like a nice rudder and helm is 30$! and i can get some stuff here at OSE, but i know i can save pretty big by buying some things at r2,

because as my first boat, i kinda wanna go cheap almost, so if i crash like a newb, i wont get mad, or if i sink it, no big, just a fast cheap boat toy,

then after seeing the cheap side, i can go big in the future with a larger more hopped-up boat,

i always go big after, my E-revo conversion costed 600$ in the beggining, now the hopped up nice version is at 1,400$, and i bash it all day long!

i just am debating if i will get into boating and use it lots, like right now im on vaca. and there are 3 very large ponds within short walking distance like glass, and that makes me want one, but back in NF, i may only use it like 3 times a in the summer season, and i may not come back here on vaca to use it, so im kinda stuck on wether to place my order or not to

[Scott T]

I think the OM29 might be a bit big, you'd need more power to get it going, and that means more $$$ (considering 3S and 6S options). But if the offer is good, you could probably go 3S2P and an XL motor, but you'd need a decent ESC (the Seaking 180 might do it). Since your lakes are smooth, you'd probably get more fun out of the 26" boats though.

The rudder at R2 is good, but if you go to Zippkits, go to their nitro accesories - 21 size accessories the rudder and strut there will be great for your options.

[Bob Bighinatti]

My best advice to you sir is to start here:http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Bas.../9780911295078

Its a book on the basics of radio control model boating. It will give you a basic understanding of setting up a model boat. 13.95 plenty of basic knowledge.

I have that book and the sister book on fast electrics boats . a lot of info but a little dated can be bought at a good hobbie store
Bob Big