Fiegao 8 & 9 xl motors

[Eodman]

With the advent of me smoking 2 Hydra 240's I am looking for a little info please.

Although I still have confidence in Castle resolving this smoke on hook up thing ... could someone tell me how many poles these two motors have!

In my MM I am currently running a 9xl and an Etti 150 and there seems to be different advances for different poles so I just want to be sure the esc is set right!

I may also try the Etti's in my Thunder Cat(Toysports Jolly) which has twin 8xls in it, so again in the interest of not letting smoke out of the Etti's how many are in the 8's please!

[domwilson]

These are 2 pole motors.

[Eodman]

Thanks Dom

[alvinsmith75]

In my experience of speaking with Castle tech. support (Bernie and Thomas), I understand that the safest thing you can do is to set the timing at 0. I do this with all of my r/c truck esc's to keep temps down. The motors have soooo much power that the tiny gain of advanced timing is not worth the rise of heat.
I hope Joe Ford reads this and chimes in to let us know what he thinks.
Alvin

[SweetAccord]

Use the lowest setting, you won't gain much on higher values maybe 1-3 MPH's including a lot more heat! The fastest SAW boat's ESC setting were set to the lowest. Hint, hint.

~Peace.

[Fluid]

Use the lowest setting......The fastest SAW boat's ESC setting were set to the lowest. Hint, hint

Well this certainly isn't an accurate statement. First we have to differentiate between two-pole motors like the Feigao, Hacker and Lehner, and the multi-pole motors like the Neu. I still hold the NAMBA P Offshore SAW record (it's faster than IMPBA's) set in 2004 (with a Hacker 5XL and GP3300 cells) at 73.4 mph. Timing on my Schulze 18-149 controller was set at maximum, probably 25-30 degrees of advance. Believe me, it was 'way slower on low timing and ran hotter too. Joreg used a high advance setting on his 140 mph runs with his 2-pole Lehner motors. Timing has to match the amp draw, too little advance heats things up. Too much timing advance for the amp draw can heat things up too.

On the Neu D-wind motors, set the timing advance as low as possible. More timing just causes more heat with these motors. The Neu Y-wind motors run faster with a little timing advance. Most multi-pole motors like Mega, AMMO etc. like a little advance too.

If you don't understand how to use timing advance settings then setting the ESC to minimum advance makes sense. Just don't make up statements based on lack of experience.



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[longballlumber]

Well this certainly isn't an accurate statement. First we have to differentiate between two-pole motors like the Feigao, Hacker and Lehner, and the multi-pole motors like the Neu. I still hold the NAMBA P Offshore SAW record (it's faster than IMPBA's) set in 2004 (with a Hacker 5XL and GP3300 cells) at 73.4 mph. Timing on my Schulze 18-149 controller was set at maximum, probably 25-30 degrees of advance. Believe me, it was 'way slower on low timing and ran hotter too. Joreg used a high advance setting on his 140 mph runs with his 2-pole Lehner motors. Timing has to match the amp draw, too little advance heats things up. Too much timing advance for the amp draw can heat things up too.

On the Neu D-wind motors, set the timing advance as low as possible. More timing just causes more heat with these motors. The Neu Y-wind motors run faster with a little timing advance. Most multi-pole motors like Mega, AMMO etc. like a little advance too.

If you don't understand how to use timing advance settings then setting the ESC to minimum advance makes sense. Just don't make up statements based on lack of experience.



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This is good techinical info...

Fluid, How do you know what to set your timing at when using 2 -pole motors?

Mike

[SweetAccord]

I was referring to this:

At the recent (Apr. 4-5-6) LA SAW time trials held in California at Legg Lake Bill Malvey piloted his Sniper Mono to a 2 way average of 76.94 mph setting a new NAMBA T Offshore record. Bill set that record with his heat racing 18 pound 45 inch mono in oval trim! Bill also had a fast one way pass of 79 mph. Bill said the boat was rock solid at those speeds which is testament to it’s oval racing heritage.
Also, Brian Buaas set a new P Hydro record at 111 mph with a fast pass at 113.

I read somewhere that they used low setting in their ESC.