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  • greenblast
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 301

    #1

    motor help.

    bofore i ask . i dont know you doozie . but i wish you well!! and i hope the horse had insurance! i have ran boat approx 6 to 10 times with no heat at all . i was prepping for tomorrows run .when testing.motor did nothing. the motor spins free the conn. are good. its a graup 6 can i open end bell and if so can i play with timing?
  • NorthernBoater
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 869

    #2
    What do you mean the motor did nothing? I assume you tested it out of the water. I would just leave the timing alone for your first run and see how that works first. The motors will get much warmer in a boat than in a car. I have not run that motor so I would not be able to say what timing is good for it.

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    • Steven Vaccaro
      Administrator
      • Apr 2007
      • 8932

      #3
      It doesn't sound like a motor problem. Check all your wires and radio. Does the steering work? If yes, try switching the servo leads to the receiver to test the received. The steering on the transmitter should now control the motor and vise versa. if the trigger doesn't move the steering servo, its a receiver problem, most likely.
      Steven Vaccaro

      Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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      • greenblast
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2007
        • 301

        #4
        I should have told you more . rec is working fine.i have full voltage at esc. at wot. motor does nothing when connected directly to battery. im getting power to tabs. but not response from motor it spins freely by hand. i am running small prop nothing is even warm esc and motor are watercooled.

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        • Steven Vaccaro
          Administrator
          • Apr 2007
          • 8932

          #5
          Can you inspect the brushes?
          Steven Vaccaro

          Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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          • Doozie870
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2007
            • 970

            #6
            You could try to spin it by hand while direct connected to a battery, lower voltage is fine, (NO PROP) to see if it would get passed the dead spot. There is not to much that is servicable on those, she may be done.. as far as timing goes I wouldnt waste my time with it, by the time you advance it enough to get real power the esc's start blowing from feedback. It does work good for counter rotating applications though. I have tons of 9.6-14.4 volt 600 size motors that are collecting dust, pay shipping and there yours.

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            • greenblast
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2007
              • 301

              #7
              doozie I would love to pay shipping for any of your scraps lol.if its toast what went wrong? i t was going great .

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              • Doozie870
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2007
                • 970

                #8
                Not sure on that one, Ive burned up 7s and 8s to past recognition lol and they still attepted to run, maybe dissect it, you may find one of the brush holders has come loose. Ill send you a pm.

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                • greenblast
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 301

                  #9
                  i managed to open endbell not an easy task thanks.and found it is brush problem . the brush came loose from holder .it still seems to be intact can i put this back.or replace it? or did i smoke brushes?i had a bad crash prior to problem. is six runs the end of the road for graup 6 on 10c with x438.if prop is to big why does motor feel cool. is brush cooling better than a jacket or is both better.any advise is much apreciated.

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                  • Doozie870
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 970

                    #10
                    I would just keep it for parts, if you had 6 or 7 runs before this happened and the motor was cool I would suspect the set up is ok, if your going into real long runtimes I would do the brush coolers first, can second, keep in mind that neither one will save the motor if its way overloaded.

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                    • Doug Smock
                      Moderator
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 5359

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Doozie870 View Post
                      I would just keep it for parts, if you had 6 or 7 runs before this happened and the motor was cool I would suspect the set up is ok, if your going into real long runtimes I would do the brush coolers first, can second, keep in mind that neither one will save the motor if its way overloaded.
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                      • Doozie870
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 970

                        #12
                        Feeling good, bored out of my mind.

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                        • greenblast
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 301

                          #13
                          Doozie you da man! thank you once again. i just sent you paypal to cover the difference for shipping hopfully enough left over for some beer.i dont know if the motors was a good thing or not cause now i am looking at hulls and esc etc cause i already have a motor.lol thanks again and i can say i have had nothing but great exp. and advise from you all even if i am to dumb to listen.

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