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  • darryl whitman
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 535

    #16
    really, I'm glad u feel that way, U must be a battery salesmen ?

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    • Brushless55
      Creator
      • Oct 2008
      • 9479

      #17
      12C charge rate listed right here bro
      Buy top-quality USA assembled batteries for RC Hobbies, Air, FPV, UAVs, Drones, Robotics, eVTOLs from ThunderPowerRC.com

      60A charge rate on a single 5000mah 4s pack
      not feelings but specs
      I have yet to buy a charger that can actually do this yet
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      • Doug Smock
        Moderator
        • Apr 2007
        • 5264

        #18
        Originally posted by Brushless55 View Post
        it's ok to leave packs fully charge for about 2-3 weeks
        Todd please show us where a battery manufacturer says this^^^.

        This from Hyperion.
        Lithium Care
        To maximize your investment in Lithium Battery packs, do the following:
        * ALWAYS Store your packs at 60% of capacity. After a day of flying, use STORE Mode to achieve this. It is especially harmful to store lithium packs fully charged, and should be avoided for more that a day or two at most.
        * AVOID discharging cells beyond 90% of capacity (80% is even better). NEVER fully discharge lithium packs.
        * STORE your packs in a cool, relatively dry location.
        This from Thunder Power
        2. If storing longer than one week; batteries must be stored at 3.8V/cell to 3.9V/cell (approximately 50% charged). This is easily accomplished using Thunder Power charger on storage or 50% mode.
        Last edited by Doug Smock; 05-01-2014, 09:44 PM.
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        • darryl whitman
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 535

          #19
          like I said, people will believe anything a manufacture will print just to sale goods.
          you mite want to check out what the USAF says about lipos they uses for the drones,

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          • Brushless55
            Creator
            • Oct 2008
            • 9479

            #20
            Originally posted by Doug Smock View Post
            Todd please show us where a battery manufacturer says this^^^.

            .
            Doug this came from LNE who makes Giant Power and Dinogy packs
            I have an email from them and not from someones site, saying 2-3 weeks max for a fully charged pack, after that they need to be placed in storage charge
            not my words but there's
            but....
            all my packs are put in storage charge right after race day for best life of the packs
            my flight packs are not stored fully charged for more than 48hrs at home...
            Last edited by Brushless55; 05-02-2014, 12:21 AM.
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            • Brushless55
              Creator
              • Oct 2008
              • 9479

              #21
              Originally posted by darryl whitman View Post
              hi guys , this post is what do an it works well for me ,
              1- I charge lipos at 1c , even if the label says 5c charge rate, why, because the manufacture would like you to be hard on your batts, shorten the life
              so you buy more ,
              Originally posted by Brushless55 View Post
              uhhh?
              no documented proof of shortened life by charging at 5c when a pack says you can charge at 5c

              reminds me of a bogus chart someone put up at rcgroups about this
              heck even some ThunderPower lipos have a charge rate of 12C !
              many users want a fast charging lipo when they go fly or run boats
              big debate at rcgroups on just that, fast charging is the way to go some say... and they live by that, and I know of a few who charge at 5C and greater all the time without any loss of power or performance
              Originally posted by darryl whitman View Post
              like I said, people will believe anything a manufacture will print just to sale goods.
              you mite want to check out what the USAF says about lipos they uses for the drones,
              again no proof manufactures are telling customers to charge their lipos at higher C ratings in hopes their customers will kill their packs in order to sell more???
              sounds like that would be a fire waiting to happen in so many homes around the world?
              .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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              • Doug Smock
                Moderator
                • Apr 2007
                • 5264

                #22
                Originally posted by Brushless55 View Post
                Doug this came from LNE who makes Giant Power and Dinogy packs
                I have an email from them and not from someones site, saying 2-3 weeks max for a fully charged pack, after that they need to be placed in storage charge
                not my words but there's
                Ah but these are your words.
                Originally posted by Brushless55 View Post
                it's ok to leave packs fully charge for about 2-3 weeks,
                You have to be careful while painting with such a broad brush, as noted above.

                Thank you sir,
                Last edited by Doug Smock; 05-02-2014, 08:00 PM. Reason: typo
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                • Brushless55
                  Creator
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 9479

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Doug Smock View Post
                  Ah but these are your words.


                  You have to be careful while painting with such a broad brush, as noted above.

                  Thank you sir,
                  uh broad brush..... 2-3 weeks or was that 2-3 weeks

                  Doug I want to personally invite you to the High Altitude Shootout that my friend and I are putting on
                  you can run one of my freshly charge erh uh make that my 3 week charged lipo and see how she does
                  https://www.facebook.com/MileHighMod...17226264982870
                  This is our club
                  https://www.facebook.com/MileHighModelers

                  and our facebook page we over see
                  https://www.facebook.com/groups/690269474349798/

                  We belong to Namba20 and really want to take D20 higher and bring the family fun factor for all ages!
                  .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                  • kfxguy
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 8750

                    #24
                    Man I'm scared. Scared to charge over 1c. I'd rather wait than be sorry. That's how I roll. It's not worth it to me in my opinion. All my Batts balance perfectly.
                    32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                    • Doug Smock
                      Moderator
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 5264

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Brushless55 View Post
                      but....
                      all my packs are put in storage charge right after race day for best life of the packs
                      my flight packs are not stored fully charged for more than 48hrs at home...
                      Originally posted by Brushless55 View Post

                      Doug I want to personally invite you to the High Altitude Shootout that my friend and I are putting on
                      you can run one of my freshly charge erh uh make that my 3 week charged lipo and see how she does
                      Which is it Todd???

                      Never mind, we have a clear understanding now. lol

                      Thanks for clearing that up.

                      Driving on now.
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                      • kfxguy
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 8750

                        #26
                        I always put my packs in storage mode immediately after use. Just funny about it I guess.
                        32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                        • Brushless55
                          Creator
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 9479

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Brushless55 View Post
                          uh broad brush..... 2-3 weeks or was that 2-3 weeks

                          Doug I want to personally invite you to the High Altitude Shootout that my friend and I are putting on
                          you can run one of my freshly charge erh uh make that my 3 week charged lipo and see how she does
                          https://www.facebook.com/MileHighMod...17226264982870
                          This is our club
                          https://www.facebook.com/MileHighModelers

                          and our facebook page we over see
                          https://www.facebook.com/groups/690269474349798/

                          We belong to Namba20 and really want to take D20 higher and bring the family fun factor for all ages!
                          Originally posted by Doug Smock View Post
                          Which is it Todd???

                          Never mind, we have a clear understanding now. lol

                          Thanks for clearing that up.

                          Driving on now.
                          let me try this again....
                          I will charge up a few packs 3 weeks before the High Altitude Shootout and leave them charge up just for you to try out and see they don't melt down during a 6 lap heat
                          .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                          • Brushless55
                            Creator
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 9479

                            #28
                            Originally posted by kfxguy View Post
                            Man I'm scared. Scared to charge over 1c. I'd rather wait than be sorry. That's how I roll. It's not worth it to me in my opinion. All my Batts balance perfectly.
                            never a bad thing to charge at 1C


                            Originally posted by kfxguy View Post
                            I always put my packs in storage mode immediately after use. Just funny about it I guess.
                            usually Sunday after I get home from a race I start putting my packs into storage charge...
                            but some sit for several days depending on how busy I get around the house and at work
                            .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                            • Doug Smock
                              Moderator
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 5264

                              #29

                              Do some reading on capacity loss fellas.
                              I'm going to go practice peeing up a rope.

                              Later...........
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                              • G-UNIT
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 949

                                #30
                                I don't mean to bud in here but I always get confuzed on this 1c thing, I use turnigy 5000 2s1p mah and charge tham at 4-5 amps, is takes about an hour.
                                can someone go over 1c = what ect...

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