Quick Review of the SkyRC Ultimate Duo 400W X 2

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  • properchopper
    rcgoatbuild@snotmail.com
    • Apr 2007
    • 6958

    #1

    Quick Review of the SkyRC Ultimate Duo 400W X 2

    Lots more to say; some first impressions. Draw your own conclusions

    The field by power/price :

    Hyperion Duo 3 ; 500Wx500W - $249.95 + shipping (OSE)
    TP 820 CD ; 400Wx400W - $269.95 + shipping (Horizon)
    *Hitec X-2 ; 400Wx400W - $172.95 + shipping (Ebay)
    *Turnigy Mega 400WX2 - 400Wx400W - 124.80 + shipping (HK Int'l Warehouse)
    *SkyRC Ultimate Duo 400W x 2 - 400Wx400W - HobbyPartz $115.70 - FREE SHIPPING

    * Reason to believe these are the SAME CHARGERS - I downloaded the manuals for all three and they are absolutely identical - minor variation in cases/graphics

    Charging modes :
    Charge (no balancing)
    Balance (charges at .1C at end of cycle) -
    Fast Charge(charges at .5C at end of cycle)(can be configured for any higher "C" you desire)
    Storage(user configureable - will charge up or discharge down to any pre-set value)
    Discharge

    Programming

    Seems clumsy to me; manual gets you to @80%-have to use intuition and large quantities of chilled malt beverage to 'git 'er done. Once accomplished choosing one of the ten available memory settings should be easy once you get used to it.

    Info Screen(s) **

    Basic charging info on initial screen - Battery type,Charging Current, Real Time Battery Voltage,Charge Mode,Elapsed Time, Mah put in

    Toggle to second screen down - individual cell voltage

    Nice to have a screen for both batteries while dual charging.

    ** Here's where my three Hyperions are "WAY MORE BETTER" in this category: The SkyRC & it's clones, and also the Thunderpower 820CD have no readout telling at what percent of final/full charge you're at in the cycle. The Hyperions have this essential data readout. Here's an example : You're racing several classes. Ten minutes 'till tape-up/get on the stand. With the Hyperion you look at the charger and can see how close (or not) you are to a finish charge. Or you're fun running with a friend; He's at the water's edge ready to play & calls out to you "Lets Go". Without knowing whether you're fully charged you'd be best to wait 'till the "finish charge beep" happens, and without the % readout you have no idea when that'll happen. ( The volt readout gives you a decent idea, but...)

    Minor gripe : Battery leads are 12GA ; kind of wimpy & power cord is rather short. Gave in & bought one of these, needed one anyway: http://www.hobbypartz.com/26p-powerstrip.html

    FWIW I'm glad I bought the SkyRC. For the $$ it can't be beat. Gives me an excuse to crank up the tunes to blank out the rather loud (but I'm glad it's doing it's job) fan. Time will tell how long it functions properly until it hits the smelly air freshener graveyard

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    Remember : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOMTnLHDWRA


    Tony
    South Bay Home For Terminally Bewildered FE Racers
    Last edited by properchopper; 08-02-2012, 07:55 PM.
    2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
    2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
    '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono
  • Heaving Earth
    Banned
    • Jun 2012
    • 1877

    #2
    I'm rather impressed with hobbypartZ. Always have been, and look forward to more awesome stuff from them

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    • properchopper
      rcgoatbuild@snotmail.com
      • Apr 2007
      • 6958

      #3
      Originally posted by Heaving Earth View Post
      I'm rather impressed with hobbypartZ. Always have been, and look forward to more awesome stuff from them
      Got my charger in LESS than 24 hours from the time I ordered it & they paid shipping.

      Was schmoozing the GensAce guys for a Nat's sponshorship ; showed up once for a race but never came back. No biggie. Also just ordered some nicely speck'd cheapo disposeable servos; will report on them soon.
      2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
      2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
      '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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      • Basstronics
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Jun 2008
        • 2303

        #4
        I was debating about that Thunderpower and considered the cheap route of Sky or Turnigy as well.

        I bought the Mega 400W Turnigy and so far its a beast. No complaints.
        42" Osprey, 32" Pursuit, 26" Bling Rocket (rescue), Blizzard Rigger, JAE 21FE rigger, Hobby King rigger (RIP)

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        • LiPo Power
          DJI Drone Advanced Pilot
          • May 2009
          • 3186

          #5
          Same here.
          I went the Turnigy way and got this 400W charger:
          http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...y_Charger.html
          It has upgraded new software, better options as for monitoring the charging or temperature regulated cooling fans.
          So fare I love it.....
          Just my 3 C....



          Originally posted by Basstronics View Post
          I was debating about that Thunderpower and considered the cheap route of Sky or Turnigy as well.

          I bought the Mega 400W Turnigy and so far its a beast. No complaints.
          DJI Drone Advanced Pilot
          Canada

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          • properchopper
            rcgoatbuild@snotmail.com
            • Apr 2007
            • 6958

            #6
            Sky RC Ultimate Duo 400W x 2 Saves the Day at D19 Race

            Was using my Hyperion Duo Saturday for the P-Ltd Sport Hydro heats. Plenty of time for charging between heats with all the gas classes running - only used one 4S 5000 and charging was going just fine (and the % charge readout told me just how much time was left until full charge). Sunday was a whole 'nother thing. Less gas classes, less time between heats and we ran P-Mono so had to charge 2 4S 5000's at a time. Unfortunately my deep cycle poweer supply battery was caving in and the Hyperion Duo wouldn't charge with the lowering input voltage of the deep cycle battery and would just quit charging. The manual I have for the Duo refers to a screen where the input voltage threshold can be adjusted but my Duo (a very early one) wouldn't respond to the input voltage low threshold screen. I hooked up the SkyRC (which HAS an adjustable supply voltage feature); mine was set at 10V "just because" - and it worked just fine. The only downside was that the SkyRC doesn't have a "% until fully charged readout" - important information to know when your heat is approaching. Stephen saved the day by letting me use this goodie : http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...rod=emp-Sentry - besides being a balancer and individual cell readout meter, it has the all important "% charge" data readout. I'm getting two

            AND was Second Place Finisher in P-Mono Class (behind that too-fast Tyler guy )
            2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
            2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
            '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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            • twissted
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 867

              #7
              I bought the turnigy. I wish I would have bought through hobbypatz. HK riped me off 90.00 in shipping when I oreded 4 batteries whith this shipment and it took 4 weeks to get it. I'm done with hobbyking. They have good prices unless you need service or part replaced. They have no problem lying about what they do as well.
              twissted from speed. Lead, fallow or get out of the way. Copy cats in back of the buss!!!

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              • jcald2000
                Senior Member
                • May 2008
                • 768

                #8
                Tony, next time look at the PL-8 same price as your top 2 and by far the best charger I have ever seen in my 20 years including the Schultz's.
                4S 2P in 12 min's at 2C, 8S 2P in 30 min's.
                Jumper cables from your running car while charging will solve the charging problem.

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                • SirBudman32
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 609

                  #9
                  Tony, take the left side fan out (the one that sucks air in) and put a 2 washers on each screw between the fan and the case and it will quite it down. Did it on my Turnigy and now you don't even know it is running.
                  Modified Jae21, Stock Jae21, Cheetah, Ul-1, Shock Wave 26 V2 (Rescue Boat).

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                  • MAMBA2200
                    I need a scooby snack
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 1196

                    #10
                    i bought the thunder charger T-6 and have never looked back i really like that it was cheap and has turned out to be very reliable
                    Im Only Responsible For What I Say Not For What You Understand

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                    • properchopper
                      rcgoatbuild@snotmail.com
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 6958

                      #11
                      Originally posted by jcald2000 View Post
                      Tony, next time look at the PL-8 same price as your top 2 and by far the best charger I have ever seen in my 20 years including the Schultz's.
                      4S 2P in 12 min's at 2C, 8S 2P in 30 min's.
                      Jumper cables from your running car while charging will solve the charging problem.
                      With four chargers, I think I'm done buying any more for a while. (Can't have a running car in the pits so I use a good power supply when there's 110V to plug into). Use a marine deep cycle most of the time.

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                      One thing I like about the SkyRc (same internals as the Turnigy & HiTec btw) is three charging modes : BALANCE, CHARGE, and FAST CHARGE. The first two modes drop to 1/10 volt near the end of charge cycle, the FAST CHARGE mode drops to 1/5 volt so that last "topping off" time is cut in half.
                      2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                      2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                      '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                      • keithbradley
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 3663

                        #12
                        Tony,

                        As you know, the SkyRC chargers are what I now carry on my site. While I haven't had a chance to try them all, I'm currently using the 4 x 80w charger now (with the SKyRC 1200W PS) and it's working well. I checked final cell balance against other chargers and volt meters and it seems to balance well (this is a concern with a lot of the cheaper chargers out there...some will vary by up to .2v!). The only complaint I guess I have about it is the thermostat on/off parameters for the fans. It seems that the "on" and "off" parameters are very close, so the fan cycles alot, where I would prefer it just stay on or off. The constant cycling of the fan can be annoying in a quite room, but I'm willing to put up with it as the price/performance of this unit is pretty tough to beat.

                        Does your 400x2 charger do the same thing?
                        www.keithbradleyboats.com

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                        • properchopper
                          rcgoatbuild@snotmail.com
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 6958

                          #13
                          Originally posted by keithbradley View Post
                          Tony,

                          As you know, the SkyRC chargers are what I now carry on my site. While I haven't had a chance to try them all, I'm currently using the 4 x 80w charger now (with the SKyRC 1200W PS) and it's working well. I checked final cell balance against other chargers and volt meters and it seems to balance well (this is a concern with a lot of the cheaper chargers out there...some will vary by up to .2v!). The only complaint I guess I have about it is the thermostat on/off parameters for the fans. It seems that the "on" and "off" parameters are very close, so the fan cycles alot, where I would prefer it just stay on or off. The constant cycling of the fan can be annoying in a quite room, but I'm willing to put up with it as the price/performance of this unit is pretty tough to beat.

                          Does your 400x2 charger do the same thing?
                          My fan is always on. I like it because it drowns out the noises in my head
                          2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                          2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                          '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                          • MarkF
                            dinogylipos.com
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 979

                            #14
                            For those of you who don't own a Hyperian charger, here is the fuel tank guide for referrence.
                            empty 3.209V
                            10% 3.683V
                            20% 3.747V
                            30% 3.791V
                            40% 3.812V
                            50% 3.839V
                            60% 3.883V
                            70% 3.936V
                            80% 3.999V
                            90% 4.085V
                            100% 4.199V

                            Mark

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                            • MIGMaster
                              Member
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 72

                              #15
                              ProperChopper,

                              Just wondering how you're liking your Duo ? Still working OK ? I'm in the market for a dual charger and it's on my short list..... Thanks !

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