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  • Fluid
    Fast and Furious
    • Apr 2007
    • 8103

    #1

    Now What Do We Do??

    Today from HobbyKing:

    "Forget everything you know about high performance lipos, Turnigy BOLT Li-HV packs have arrived!
    While other packs on the market can only be charged up to 4.2 volts per cell,
    Turnigy BOLT Li-HV packs are capable of being safely charged up to 4.35 volts per cell. What does this mean?
    The discharge voltage starts higher, and stays higher than conventional lithium polymer packs."

    These packs appear to be illegal for racing in NAMBA and perhaps IMPBA because their nominal voltage is not 4.2 volts per cell. Thoughts?



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  • rearwheelin
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Oct 2008
    • 2101

    #2
    I wonder what the low voltage cut off is ?
    "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction."
    --Albert Einstein

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    • kfxguy
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Oct 2013
      • 8750

      #3
      Turnigy batteries make me think of this
      32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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      • kfxguy
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Oct 2013
        • 8750

        #4
        I havent looked yet, do they sell a charger now to go with them? I wanted some revolectrix batteries but I'm not spending 4 to 500 bucks on a charger. Need a decent alternative. I'll look at these batteries too when u get a minute.
        32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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        • Doby
          KANADA RULES!
          • Apr 2007
          • 7512

          #5
          Originally posted by Fluid View Post
          Today from HobbyKing:

          "Forget everything you know about high performance lipos, Turnigy BOLT Li-HV packs have arrived!
          While other packs on the market can only be charged up to 4.2 volts per cell,
          Turnigy BOLT Li-HV packs are capable of being safely charged up to 4.35 volts per cell. What does this mean?
          The discharge voltage starts higher, and stays higher than conventional lithium polymer packs."

          These packs appear to be illegal for racing in NAMBA and perhaps IMPBA because their nominal voltage is not 4.2 volts per cell. Thoughts?



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          If they are illegal, then the Revolectrix batteries would be as well. Something people who attend organized racing need to consider, as well as the CD's for those races.
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          • Brushless55
            Creator
            • Oct 2008
            • 9481

            #6
            Originally posted by Doby View Post
            If they are illegal, then the Revolectrix batteries would be as well. Something people who attend organized racing need to consider, as well as the CD's for those races.
            True
            .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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            • Fluid
              Fast and Furious
              • Apr 2007
              • 8103

              #7
              Originally posted by kfxguy View Post
              Turnigy batteries make me think of this
              Yeah baby!

              DSC00029.jpgJim's Nano Fire 3.jpgDSC00028.jpg

              But making fun of Turnigy doesn't solve the higher nominal voltage legality issue with newer technology cells. Or the fact we may all need to buy new chargers for them.....


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              • kfxguy
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Oct 2013
                • 8750

                #8
                Originally posted by Fluid View Post
                Yeah baby!

                [ATTACH=CONFIG]118949[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]118950[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]118951[/ATTACH]

                But making fun of Turnigy doesn't solve the higher nominal voltage legality issue with newer technology cells. Or the fact we may all need to buy new chargers for them.....


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                its still fun tho! lol (scary looking pics btw!)

                You know how things are. they evolve. Sometimes takes the racing guidelines or rules to catch up.
                32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                • kfxguy
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 8750

                  #9
                  Ok. I found the batteries. I cant find a charger tho.
                  32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                  • Livewire121
                    Fast Electric Adict!!
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 320

                    #10
                    I checked my Thunder Power 820CD charger and it can charge up to 4.24v per cell, I wonder if that's something TP can update if the need arises.
                    HPR 115 - Lenher 2240/7, AS26- 150BL EVO ll esc's 92.3mph

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                    • 785boats
                      Wet Track Racing
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 3423

                      #11
                      I use the Revolectrix HV batteries. They can be charged to 4.27V/cell.
                      The HV batteries are only Illegal if you charge them up over 4.2V/cell. That's all I charge mine to
                      All that happens if you don't fully charge them to their Max voltage, is that they don't take on their full capacity. Probably about 5-10% less. No probs. They will last longer too.
                      The Revolectrix packs still hold up a higher voltage than a lot of other packs I have, through the discharge cycle under load, even when only charged to 4.2v/cell.
                      Policing the cheats will be the hard thing at sanctioned race events. Anyone at our club is welcome to check my packs before I use them.

                      I use a Hyperion Duo 720i & it has the capability to raise the cell voltage.
                      See the danger. THEN DO IT ANYWAY!!!
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                      • Livewire121
                        Fast Electric Adict!!
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 320

                        #12
                        I spoke to Thunder Power and they will have a firmware update for the 820CD to allow for charging up to 4.35v per cell.
                        HPR 115 - Lenher 2240/7, AS26- 150BL EVO ll esc's 92.3mph

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                        • rearwheelin
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 2101

                          #13
                          Were can I get new skins to put on them for race day
                          "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction."
                          --Albert Einstein

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                          • Brushless55
                            Creator
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 9481

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Livewire121 View Post
                            I spoke to Thunder Power and they will have a firmware update for the 820CD to allow for charging up to 4.35v per cell.
                            So we think this is one of the better chargers out there for this job?
                            I'm wanting a new charger and one that can charge these newer HV packs
                            .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                            • kfxguy
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 8750

                              #15
                              I also need a new charger. I bought a hitec a few months back (love it btw) but the ac power supply went out so I sent it back to get another one. I'm gonna sell it and get something that has a higher out put.
                              32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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