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  • Tony Vega
    Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 35

    #1

    Alternative to Z-poxy?

    Can I use Loctite's 60min 2- part epoxy instead of the very commonly mentioned Z-poxy? I have a brand new box of it at my disposal and would like to use it to coat the inside of my SuperVee hull and wooden motor mount to strengthen if it got wet.

    Thanks in advance.
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  • FastVee
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2008
    • 649

    #2
    I don“t know about that epoxy, but I installed everything on my Delta force copy with 30min epoxy(hot racing, hobbycity also sells it under their name), and it is holding fine. -it has 10minutes working time and it cures compleatly in 24hrs.

    I would say that go for it

    And I would use some fiberglass cloth also on the seam of that hull.

    Brush some epoxy on the inside seam first, then add f/g cloth on that wet epoxy and brush eopxy on top.Try to get the air pockets out with the brush.

    If you just brush the epoxy on the hull, that will work too, but it is not that strong as the epoxy with cloth.
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    • longballlumber
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      • Apr 2007
      • 3119

      #3
      Tony,

      That should work fine. However, you will probably want to thin it out with some Acetone.

      Mike

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      • JimClark
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        • Apr 2007
        • 5902

        #4
        Denatured Alcohol works well for thinning also
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        • sailr
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          • Nov 2007
          • 6924

          #5
          Thin it with ALCOHOL. That is the prescribed solvent for epoxy. Acetone will work but not as well.
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          • teach
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2008
            • 509

            #6
            It may have been me but I have used that exact epoxy. When I thinned it with alcohol it reacted bad. Basically turned into a valcano. Bubbled up, foamed, melted the cup I mixxed it in. Again probably something I did.

            Just a heads up.

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            • sailr
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              • Nov 2007
              • 6924

              #7
              Naw, come on. Alcohol will not react with real epoxy. Not sure what you had but...
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              • FastVee
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2008
                • 649

                #8
                maybe you used too much hardener? -that WILL heat things up.
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                • line6
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 478

                  #9
                  Originally posted by teach View Post
                  It may have been me but I have used that exact epoxy. When I thinned it with alcohol it reacted bad. Basically turned into a valcano. Bubbled up, foamed, melted the cup I mixxed it in. Again probably something I did.

                  Just a heads up.
                  from what i have read if you thin with alcohol it speeds up your work time. so that makes sense that it heated up to fast. plus it will heat up faster in a small cup compared to a cup that has i bigger bottom

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                  • sailr
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                    • Nov 2007
                    • 6924

                    #10
                    Where do you hear these things? I've been building boats, airplanes, etc. etc. for 50 years! NEVER has alcohol caused a problem with epoxy! Kinda like some of the other urban legends floating around I guess.

                    Originally posted by line6 View Post
                    from what i have read if you thin with alcohol it speeds up your work time. so that makes sense that it heated up to fast. plus it will heat up faster in a small cup compared to a cup that has i bigger bottom
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                    • line6
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 478

                      #11
                      I looked at the article again and i guess i remembered it wrong . they where also talking about heating epoxy to thin it and i think that is where i got mixed up. any way here is the article its a good read. it also talks about the disadvantages to thinning with a chemical.

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                      • JimClark
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                        • Apr 2007
                        • 5902

                        #12
                        you loose strength by thinning but we are not worried about the strength as it is used to seal the wood
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                        • Tony Vega
                          Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 35

                          #13
                          You guys weren't kidding that the stuff I was going to use needed to be thinned. The bottle was brand new and too thick so I chucked it and went the the hobby store and picked up some 30 minute Z-Poxy. All is good now.

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                          • Ocean Racer
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 502

                            #14
                            I have been using the Loctite but in a 5min setup and it works pretty good. I use it on joining and coating wood and plastic. "Now if i can only get that mixture right on those bigger batches."
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