Project: H&M Micro Drifter Rebuild

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  • fragglez
    Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 40

    #1

    Project: H&M Micro Drifter Rebuild

    Had this boat over a year now and I swear its Jinxed, got it off ebay and although it is quite fast it leaks a bit and the motor cooks!! big time! so time for a change. and would like your guys tips and advice as I want to go to brushless and my previous attempts on a Graupner Jet Sprint was fun but unreliable so this time I want to do things right.

    Current Spec:
    Hull: H&M Micro Drifter
    Motor: Kyosho Rev Super Marine Type G (13 turn) 540 can style with built in water cooling.
    ESC: Graupner Profi V80 (80A) 12v max Water Cooled
    Batteries: 6 cell Enrichpower 4600mah (NI-MH)
    Unknown Hardware
    Prop: S36 (I think its a 36mm 1.6 pitch)

    I've got a budget of £150 which I think is about $240
    My aim to make a reliable stable boat capable of speeds 45mph+

    Can anyone help? What motor and ESC is best? should I change the hardware? Prop etc?
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    Many thanks
    NQD Highwind - Graupner Jet Sprint - Hydro & Marine Micro Drifter
  • fragglez
    Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 40

    #2
    Right Folks need tips!!! I've seen this video with the following setup...(MICRO DRIFTER MOTEUR FEIGAO 5639 kv LIPO 3S 3950mA CONTROLEUR 100A REFROIDIE PAR EAU

    VITESSE AU RADAR : 94 km/h). it's a very high KV motor can you see any complications? also any idea on the prop you would use on this?

    Videohttp://www.dailymotion.com/video/xb7...po-3s-min_auto

    Cheers
    NQD Highwind - Graupner Jet Sprint - Hydro & Marine Micro Drifter

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    • vvviivvv
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • May 2009
      • 1148

      #3
      is the hull 620mm? i have one which looks the same and run it on a feiago 8xl 4s1p 5000mah x642 prop and a as26-150bl the boat is atleast 45mph with no tuning or fine tweaking id say when it's fully tweaked id say 55mph - 60mph

      and yes mine leaks like mad 2
      Hpr 06 / 09 / 150 /185, Mhz Skater H45 hydro.
      Uk SAW record holder

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      • fragglez
        Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 40

        #4
        Yea the leaking is a pain!! the hull dimensions are: length 470mm width 170mm so is quite a bit smaller. So wondering if I would need such a big motor as a Feiagle 8XL or would that mean the boat would go faster?
        NQD Highwind - Graupner Jet Sprint - Hydro & Marine Micro Drifter

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        • vvviivvv
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • May 2009
          • 1148

          #5
          i don't know if a 8xl would fit, mine just touches the cowl as it shuts although i have the proper H&M mount which means the motor isn't directly below the 'cockpit' bubble an 8xl might be too much power
          Hpr 06 / 09 / 150 /185, Mhz Skater H45 hydro.
          Uk SAW record holder

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          • Fluid
            Fast and Furious
            • Apr 2007
            • 8103

            #6
            I would get a 7L or 8L Feigao running on 6 NiMHs or 2 LiPos. The smaller motor will fit fine and not overheat. I ran my MD into the low 50s on 6 cells on SAW runs, and mine never leaked. What kind of hatch tape are you using? Does the boat pass the bathtub test?


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            • Gerwin Brommer
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 928

              #7
              Ray is right.
              An XL in a MICRO-drifter ?????
              The boat in the video looks like a Drifter-S.
              You could build this boat with a setup simmilar to a 7cell mono.
              My Microdrifter had a Hacker C40-6S in it, Schulze 18.149 and props 31-33mm ( Octura Andy Brown) Speed upto 113 km/h. (not funny, just for SAW)

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              • fragglez
                Member
                • Jul 2008
                • 40

                #8
                Great cheers folks, if i stick with my Batteries: 6 cell Enrichpower 4600mah (NI-MH) and get a feigao equivalent to a Hacker C40-6S a Feigao 380-6s although they are impossible to find on internet
                for me the options are:
                Feigao 380 Long 6
                Feigao 380 short 10
                Which I can get from the UK

                If I go for a 380 7S 5,916 RPM/Volt 1/8" Shaft from offshore I get hit by import tax big time!! which sucks but if needs must

                Also what Amp speed controller am I looking for?

                I've had crap experiences of brushless in the past of ESC smoking motors getting hotter than the sun etc lol want to get everything right.

                Cheers folks
                NQD Highwind - Graupner Jet Sprint - Hydro & Marine Micro Drifter

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                • Gerwin Brommer
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 928

                  #9
                  Please dont go with that 7S , stick to the 7L like Jay said.

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                  • fragglez
                    Member
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 40

                    #10
                    cool 7L on 6 Nimh it is but what amp esc should I look at getting?
                    NQD Highwind - Graupner Jet Sprint - Hydro & Marine Micro Drifter

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                    • vvviivvv
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • May 2009
                      • 1148

                      #11
                      Best you can afford... whats the budget?
                      Hpr 06 / 09 / 150 /185, Mhz Skater H45 hydro.
                      Uk SAW record holder

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                      • fragglez
                        Member
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 40

                        #12
                        the budget is quite tight £50 max I just want to know what the expected amp rating would be
                        NQD Highwind - Graupner Jet Sprint - Hydro & Marine Micro Drifter

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                        • fragglez
                          Member
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 40

                          #13
                          Ahh just found this on OS ... soo 60amp

                          NQD Highwind - Graupner Jet Sprint - Hydro & Marine Micro Drifter

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                          • vvviivvv
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • May 2009
                            • 1148

                            #14
                            a high quality 60 or maybe a lower 80 then?
                            Hpr 06 / 09 / 150 /185, Mhz Skater H45 hydro.
                            Uk SAW record holder

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                            • Steven Vaccaro
                              Administrator
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 8932

                              #15
                              While a 380 will work ok, I would suggest going with the 540 size can. The 540 is more efficient than the 380 and the larger mass of the 540 will allow the motor to handle heat better.
                              Steven Vaccaro

                              Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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